Yukinari Nov 22, 2012 @ 5:49pm
I need help with something...
When I first started the game, it ran fine and all. It ran at about 30-60 fps all the itme, which is what I expected from my laptop. Now, after playing for about an hour, it has become so slow its impossible to play. Where I would normally get 30-40 FPS, I would get 5-10. I tried defragmenting the games files, that didnt do anything. I lowered the res, once again, nothing. I played in windowed mode with task manager, and I found that it wasnt using all of my CPU. In fact, it was hardly using any of it. Is there a way I can fix this?
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ezodagrom Nov 22, 2012 @ 5:56pm 
Most likely your problem is the graphics card, not the CPU. Someone mentioned before being able to run the game fine with a Pentium 4 and a Radeon HD5770.
Yukinari Nov 22, 2012 @ 6:35pm 
Well, if it was my graphics card it wouldve been lagging the first time. This is not the case.
ezodagrom Nov 22, 2012 @ 6:56pm 
Hmm, btw, what is your processor and graphics card?
Yukinari Nov 22, 2012 @ 7:32pm 
Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B940 @ 2 GHZ, dual core. Graphics is integrated.
Sue Nov 23, 2012 @ 5:49am 
Originally posted by flippystar:
Graphics is integrated.

Welcome to the club bro.
We are group of people who left out by SEGA because of their laziness to optimize the game for all PC specification.

As your problem there's no way to guarantee smooth gameplay instead of upgrading your VRAM (which mean, upgrade your whole VGA) or wait for update to fix this issue.
ezodagrom Nov 23, 2012 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by Ran_TH <//3:
Originally posted by flippystar:
Graphics is integrated.

Welcome to the club bro.
We are group of people who left out by SEGA because of their laziness to optimize the game for all PC specification.

As your problem there's no way to guarantee smooth gameplay instead of upgrading your VRAM (which mean, upgrade your whole VGA) or wait for update to fix this issue.
Integrated graphics don't have VRAM, they use the system RAM.

Also, it's not SEGA's fault that you're trying to play games on a graphics chip that is not meant for gaming, especially with something as awful as an Intel GMA.
Last edited by ezodagrom; Nov 23, 2012 @ 6:36am
Sue Nov 23, 2012 @ 7:53am 
Originally posted by ezodagrom:
Integrated graphics don't have VRAM, they use the system RAM.

Also, it's not SEGA's fault that you're trying to play games on a graphics chip that is not meant for gaming, especially with something as awful as an Intel GMA.

Thanks for correction.

Nah, I just find it unacceptable that a game with 11 years old graphics doesn't even run smoothly on my crappy graphics chip because SEGA doesn't want to invest more for optimizing it.
Last edited by Sue; Nov 23, 2012 @ 8:04am
FwiendGuyBuddy Nov 23, 2012 @ 8:00am 
I'm seriously doubting that this is a graphical error and more of a port issue. Like Ran said, there is no reason other than that the Sonic Team are a bunch of lazy asses and didn't optimize the game for the PC at all.
ezodagrom Nov 23, 2012 @ 8:18am 
Originally posted by -LLP- DoctorAwesomeMD:
I'm seriously doubting that this is a graphical error and more of a port issue. Like Ran said, there is no reason other than that the Sonic Team are a bunch of lazy asses and didn't optimize the game for the PC at all.
Sonic Team didn't port the game for the PC, it was SEGA China, who also ported the Sonic 4 series to the PC.
The problem with SA2 is that the game is directly tied to the framerate, the game plays at slow motion if the framerate goes lower than 60fps. If the game had a frame skipping option similar to older games like Phantasy Star Universe or Sonic Heroes (being able to play the game at full speed at specific framerates, in the case of Phantasy Star Universe it had options for 60fps, 30fps, 20fps and 15fps), users like Ran_TH who have weak GPUs would be able to play the game smoothly though.

He is blaming SEGA for his laptop not running the game though, even claiming once that his laptop was above minimum requirements, when it's actually way below (minimum required graphics card listed is Geforce 8600GT, the best models of Intel GMA laptop graphics are at a Geforce 8200M level of performance or so).
Last edited by ezodagrom; Nov 23, 2012 @ 8:22am
Yukinari Nov 23, 2012 @ 9:13am 
Originally posted by ezodagrom:
Originally posted by Ran_TH <//3:
Originally posted by flippystar:
Graphics is integrated.

Welcome to the club bro.
We are group of people who left out by SEGA because of their laziness to optimize the game for all PC specification.

As your problem there's no way to guarantee smooth gameplay instead of upgrading your VRAM (which mean, upgrade your whole VGA) or wait for update to fix this issue.
Integrated graphics don't have VRAM, they use the system RAM.

Also, it's not SEGA's fault that you're trying to play games on a graphics chip that is not meant for gaming, especially with something as awful as an Intel GMA.
So, thats really all I can do, upgrade my RAM? I can try that...I would get a new graphics card, but the graphics is integrated into the motherboard, so theres no chance of changing it.
Yukinari Nov 23, 2012 @ 9:16am 
Ok, so now its running at an acceptable framerate again randomly. How nice...
Sue Nov 23, 2012 @ 9:50am 
My specs is below minimum requirements. Okay okay I get it.
But still, looking at quality of this game, minimum system requirements could be lower. Heck, Pentium III should be able to play this.
ezodagrom Nov 23, 2012 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by flippystar:
Originally posted by ezodagrom:
Originally posted by Ran_TH <//3:
Originally posted by flippystar:
Graphics is integrated.

Welcome to the club bro.
We are group of people who left out by SEGA because of their laziness to optimize the game for all PC specification.

As your problem there's no way to guarantee smooth gameplay instead of upgrading your VRAM (which mean, upgrade your whole VGA) or wait for update to fix this issue.
Integrated graphics don't have VRAM, they use the system RAM.

Also, it's not SEGA's fault that you're trying to play games on a graphics chip that is not meant for gaming, especially with something as awful as an Intel GMA.
So, thats really all I can do, upgrade my RAM? I can try that...I would get a new graphics card, but the graphics is integrated into the motherboard, so theres no chance of changing it.
Getting more RAM wouldn't make a difference, the problem is the graphics processor is too weak. In that post I was just correcting Ran_TH.

Originally posted by Ran_TH <//3:
My specs is below minimum requirements. Okay okay I get it.
But still, looking at quality of this game, minimum system requirements could be lower. Heck, Pentium III should be able to play this.
Why are you mentioning a Pentium III? o_o
Your problem has nothing to do with the CPU, it's the GPU that is the problem
Last edited by ezodagrom; Nov 23, 2012 @ 10:41am
Sue Nov 23, 2012 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by ezodagrom:
Originally posted by Ran_TH <//3:
My specs is below minimum requirements. Okay okay I get it.
But still, looking at quality of this game, minimum system requirements could be lower. Heck, Pentium III should be able to play this.
Why are you mentioning a Pentium III? o_o
Your problem has nothing to do with the CPU, it's the GPU that is the problem

Basically I said a 2003-ish computer should be able to run this game.
Okay, enough with this. Just give me frame-skipping option and I would be happy.
Last edited by Sue; Nov 23, 2012 @ 11:11am
ezodagrom Nov 23, 2012 @ 11:16am 
Originally posted by Ran_TH <//3:
Originally posted by ezodagrom:
Originally posted by Ran_TH <//3:
My specs is below minimum requirements. Okay okay I get it.
But still, looking at quality of this game, minimum system requirements could be lower. Heck, Pentium III should be able to play this.
Why are you mentioning a Pentium III? o_o
Your problem has nothing to do with the CPU, it's the GPU that is the problem

Basically I said a 2003-ish computer should be able to run this game.
If the next link is accurate, the best Intel GMA (from the Intel G45 chipset, Intel GMA X4500) is in the same tier as the Radeon 8500, a 2001 graphics card:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

I have no idea what is the weakest graphics card that can handle the game though, but, if the minimum requirements are accurate and a Geforce 8600GT can handle the game, then the similar performing Geforce 7800GT should be able to handle it as well, meaning that a good 2005 PC could be able to handle the game (it's not as old as 2003ish, but there's a possibility that the port isn't as bad as you make it seem).
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