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The Grift That Keeps On Grifting Sep 19, 2013 @ 9:45am
Three important issues with completing the game.
1. I have 48 apples and 99% on the game. Unfortunately, I have no idea where the last two apples are because every apple icon on the map is filled. What am I missing?

2. I'm only listed as having 41 apples, according to the achievement list. Is this due to getting some while using the invincibility cheat?

3. I've beaten every level, but I can't find the demon narwhal. Please explain this. It was in the demo.
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deemen  [developer] Sep 19, 2013 @ 8:02pm 
1. Your apples are probably in the cathedral portion of heaven. The levels connected by the doors don't show up on the map but their apples still count.

2. It's probably because of the cheats. I am guessing you can't pick up those apples again though? I will mark this as a bug and see if I can provide a patch in the next few weeks. The count may reset to the normal total if you pick up the last 2 apples without cheats.

3. The demon narwhal is in the third level of hell, at the very end.
The Grift That Keeps On Grifting Sep 19, 2013 @ 11:45pm 
Thanks, Dan. You responded in less than a day. I think that's the fastest developer response I've ever received. You're a lifesaver. Or a gamesaver. Either, really.
deemen  [developer] Sep 21, 2013 @ 11:55am 
You're welcome!
Hallowsend Jan 27, 2014 @ 5:40pm 
Was this ever fixed? I got all apples except one on my first playthrough, then went back with a cheat to get the one I missed. I have 50 apples in the shop now but I didn't get the achievement and it says I have 49 on the achievement counter. When I replay the level without cheats the apple isn't there.
The Grift That Keeps On Grifting Jan 27, 2014 @ 8:11pm 
It was fixed for me. If all else fails, you may have to start a new file.
DukeEdwardI Jul 30, 2014 @ 3:53pm 
Nope, this issue is definitely not fixed. My achievement progress is still at 46/50 after collecting the last four with invincibility on. That's all fine and dandy, it makes sense it wouldn't count with cheats on. However, that information is NOT conveyed to the player whatsoever. A little blurb next to the cheats in the shop saying that it won't count toward achievement progress would have been extremely helpful before the player wastes their time hunting down the remaining apples.

It's too late now, the apples have been collected and contributed to my 100% game file. The apples are now gone forever and the only way to get the achievement is to start a new file and play the game all over again. Why would the game let us collect them with cheats on in the first place?
Last edited by DukeEdwardI; Jul 30, 2014 @ 3:56pm
deemen  [developer] Aug 27, 2014 @ 6:35am 
If you collect them with cheats on, they shouldn't be saved and should show up again the next time you play the level. If I understand correctly your apples aren't coming back?
Hallowsend Aug 27, 2014 @ 7:27am 
For me, I got 49 with no cheats. I went back and got one with cheats. Counter stayed at 49. I went back with no cheats on to that level, but the apple is gone.
Hallowsend Aug 27, 2014 @ 7:28am 
In other words, for me and what looks like others, it is possible to collect apples with the cheats on but they don't count, they just disappear for good.
deemen  [developer] Nov 18, 2014 @ 4:32am 
Sorry about the delay on this. I've confirmed this is a problem and I will see if I can get a patch out soon.
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