ButterLettuce Mar 3, 2013 @ 3:59pm
Worth the full price?
I played CC last on B23 and I kind of enjoyed it. I was wondering what the general consensus on the games price was. Is it REALLY worth the $20, or should i wait for the price to go down/sale?
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Beets, by Dr. Borscht Mar 3, 2013 @ 6:59pm 
Don't let its steep price-tag fool you, as it does not reflect the quality and completeness of the game. That, and the author justifies the current price because he didn't want to make users who pre-purchased the game (possibly years) in advance feel ripped-off*, which I guess implies that he feels $15/$20 isn't the ideal price he'd have liked, at least in hindsight.

Anyway, if you've played the alphas/betas of the game and are wondering how much has changed, the answer is: not enough to notice, aside from some bugfixes and a few things added or tweaked here and there. It's pretty much going to be the exact same incomplete, unpolished, and buggy experience.

My personal recommendation would be to avoid the game entirely, even if you could get it for much cheaper than it currently is.

* Relevant post:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/209670/discussions/0/882961586818727181/#c882963520601628740
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Tleno Mar 4, 2013 @ 6:11am 
Ah avoid Bapabooie, he's one of those always sceptical naggers!

Anyways, still, this game is definetly not for everyone - if you enjoy more complex games that involve deeper but less dinamic gameplay, you should definetly give it a try. If you prefer stuff more action packed, better search for something else to buy.

And, about the price, that really depends on your wallet, I personally would recommend waiting for a sale if I were you (I always try to save for games on Steam by waiting for a sale), that is, if you're intrested in such kind of games.
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Beets, by Dr. Borscht Mar 4, 2013 @ 7:00am 
Having a negative personal opinion on the game does not mean I should inherently be ignored.

Now, I *do* actually like the game and its premise - it's very unique, as well as aesthetically-charming. But the game's execution, I feel, is flawed, and the Steam release left me feeling really disappointed that I bought-in to an unpolished and incomplete product.

The game very-much feels like it's still in alpha, and is not what I expect from a Steam release, at any price. Maybe it'll improve with time (the developer recently blogged about working on Steam workshop integration with mods), but as it stands, I find it very difficult to recommend this to anyone in its current state.
ButterLettuce Mar 4, 2013 @ 5:26pm 
Does the current build still slow down to horrendous speeds for no reason even on good computers? After a while the B23 I played was unplayable due to lag, even when I just started a game and there was nothing on screen yet
Tleno Mar 5, 2013 @ 4:10am 
Pardon, my bad, had no intention to tell to "ignore" you, just, you know, not to take such negative comments that seriously.

Well ButterLettuce (Locally grown one, I pressume), it got some slight optimisation, but nothing major, it still increases the lag levels as more actors or effects (read: troops or explosions) are present ingame, but at least to me current version is less laggy than Build 23 altrough I haven't done any hardware changes. Still, definetly can't guarantee it will go smoothly for all, all the time, esspecially if you had some lag issues with a few units ingame at same time and if you haven't upgraded your computer since then.
The Rain Mar 5, 2013 @ 8:07pm 
Here in terms of "fun" and "mods" I shall scale

B23 = 6/10

B24 = 6/10

B25 = 6/10

B26 = 9/10

B27 = 8/10

B27 HIB3 = 9/10

1.0rc1 = 10/10

1.05 = WHERETHE♥♥♥♥ISMYSTORYCAMPAIGNMODEYOUF@GS!!1111111

Mr. Stimpson Mar 8, 2013 @ 7:30pm 
I haven't even played the game and I know to stay away from it. After reading the FAQ that is stickied above, all I get out of this developer is a couple things.

1. He doesn't think the game is worth what it is priced.
2. He doesn't have a problem with walking away from a product that is still being developed.

Honestly, I can't comment on the game. But I wouldn't support this developer until he gets his ♥♥♥♥ together. Thus, is the game worth 20? I don't know. Is the developer worth supporting for 20? From a business standpoint, absolutely not.
Tleno Mar 9, 2013 @ 4:17am 
Originally posted by BloodyBartuc:
I haven't even played the game and I know to stay away from it. After reading the FAQ that is stickied above, all I get out of this developer is a couple things.

1. He doesn't think the game is worth what it is priced.
2. He doesn't have a problem with walking away from a product that is still being developed.

Honestly, I can't comment on the game. But I wouldn't support this developer until he gets his ♥♥♥♥ together. Thus, is the game worth 20? I don't know. Is the developer worth supporting for 20? From a business standpoint, absolutely not.

What do you mean "He doesn't have a problem with walking away from a product that is still being developed"? The game is still beeing updated, fixes are made and new content is added, so he doubtfully just walks away like that.
Besides, he if you read the FAQ agreed to give refund to those who have bought the game when store page had only short description due to some Steam issue setting back all the changes and din;t contain all the information about gameplay that misslead some players, and he promised to continue the work on game... you're beeing extremely biased here.

Also, on the price. Admittedly even dev himself agreed that price could have been lower, that is, comparing to overall indie game market, it is pretty big, but he guaranteed to early version purchasers that they're buying a game with a discount, and not that he started selling early game version before indie game community fomred as it is today.
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Ferox99 Mar 9, 2013 @ 10:06am 
In my opinion this is one of the most insanely fun games of all time, if you know how to mod it and have a friend to play splitscreen with. This games' physics engine allows for completely insane modding and crazy gameplay. Seriously, get this game and then go to the Datarealms fan forums page where it explains ini modding, you won't regret it.
Mr. Stimpson Mar 9, 2013 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by Tleno:
Originally posted by BloodyBartuc:
I haven't even played the game and I know to stay away from it. After reading the FAQ that is stickied above, all I get out of this developer is a couple things.

1. He doesn't think the game is worth what it is priced.
2. He doesn't have a problem with walking away from a product that is still being developed.

Honestly, I can't comment on the game. But I wouldn't support this developer until he gets his ♥♥♥♥ together. Thus, is the game worth 20? I don't know. Is the developer worth supporting for 20? From a business standpoint, absolutely not.

What do you mean "He doesn't have a problem with walking away from a product that is still being developed"? The game is still beeing updated, fixes are made and new content is added, so he doubtfully just walks away like that.
Besides, he if you read the FAQ agreed to give refund to those who have bought the game when store page had only short description due to some Steam issue setting back all the changes and din;t contain all the information about gameplay that misslead some players, and he promised to continue the work on game... you're beeing extremely biased here.

Also, on the price. Admittedly even dev himself agreed that price could have been lower, that is, comparing to overall indie game market, it is pretty big, but he guaranteed to early version purchasers that they're buying a game with a discount, and not that he started selling early game version before indie game community fomred as it is today.

From the official FAQ
"For example, if I start feeling even a little burnt out on working on a project, I take a break and do something completely different for a while. The hiatus can be from a week to up to a year - however long it takes for me to naturally recharge my passion and motivation to work on games again!"

I understand that this game could be pretty good. But when a developer discredits himself in his own FAQ, I feel like he needs to take a step back from developing games and decide what he wants to do with his life. I mean no disrespect, but his business ethic doesn't sound like it is where it needs to be. If the passion was there, this game would have been completely finished years ago. With all of the indy developers out there that show how much love they have for the industry by sticking with projects till they are done, I find it hard to want to support a developer that doesn't seem to have the same passion.
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The Rain Mar 9, 2013 @ 7:43pm 
To be fair, he is a one man dev team.
The Rain Mar 9, 2013 @ 7:44pm 
Who doesnt want brain cancer.
Tleno Mar 10, 2013 @ 5:09am 
Originally posted by BloodyBartuc:
Originally posted by Tleno:

What do you mean "He doesn't have a problem with walking away from a product that is still being developed"? The game is still beeing updated, fixes are made and new content is added, so he doubtfully just walks away like that.
Besides, he if you read the FAQ agreed to give refund to those who have bought the game when store page had only short description due to some Steam issue setting back all the changes and din;t contain all the information about gameplay that misslead some players, and he promised to continue the work on game... you're beeing extremely biased here.

Also, on the price. Admittedly even dev himself agreed that price could have been lower, that is, comparing to overall indie game market, it is pretty big, but he guaranteed to early version purchasers that they're buying a game with a discount, and not that he started selling early game version before indie game community fomred as it is today.

From the official FAQ
"For example, if I start feeling even a little burnt out on working on a project, I take a break and do something completely different for a while. The hiatus can be from a week to up to a year - however long it takes for me to naturally recharge my passion and motivation to work on games again!"

I understand that this game could be pretty good. But when a developer discredits himself in his own FAQ, I feel like he needs to take a step back from developing games and decide what he wants to do with his life. I mean no disrespect, but his business ethic doesn't sound like it is where it needs to be. If the passion was there, this game would have been completely finished years ago. With all of the indy developers out there that show how much love they have for the industry by sticking with projects till they are done, I find it hard to want to support a developer that doesn't seem to have the same passion.
He's working on this project for like 11 years. Most devs would have already discarded their game by this time. So no wonder he's not that enthusiastic about his game anymore. Still nice of him for finishing what he started!
ButterLettuce Mar 10, 2013 @ 10:51pm 
Eh I had a friend over and peer pressure convinced me to buy it.
Not worth twenty dollars, but once you mod it out the ♥♥♥ it seems like it can provide fun every once in a while
ownomics Mar 11, 2013 @ 6:22pm 
I'd pay at most 12$-15$.

Originally posted by ButterLettuce:
Does the current build still slow down to horrendous speeds for no reason even on good computers? After a while the B23 I played was unplayable due to lag, even when I just started a game and there was nothing on screen yet
Toning down the frequency of physics calculations usually makes the game run smooth in almost every battle.
There is a guide on the forums for doing that.
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