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Gaze73 Dec 26, 2013 @ 2:20pm
Grenadier is OP
300dmg with sword, 3x3 aoe, and 3 range, he just zones the entire damn field and is better at annihilating than the Annihilator.
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[GA]NuclearShadow Dec 29, 2013 @ 6:46am 
The dwarfs heavily rely on range attacks with much less gimmicks. Their two melee focused units are their healer and the engi which aren't exactly front row material. As a dwarf player my biggest advice is to simply bait and rush against a dwarf team. Yes you will lose units but its your best chance of winning. Orcs do very well in this regard and a good orc player will intentionally lose a unit to get the bonus damage needed to take out a more valuble target.
Gaze73 Dec 29, 2013 @ 7:09am 
I actually made this thread after losing a Tribe vs Dwarf match, the orcs have 800hp with no resistances, so they die to 3 grenades, even with the utterly useless spike shield. Their Superunit has zero resistances too, despite being designed to rush into the fray and surround himself with enemies, which spells certain death for him the next turn. Also typhoon is the worst of the utility spells when compared to other races. Their caster is bad too, and their racial passive can be avoided by smart players. Now that I think of it, orcs are the worst race.
Footissimo Dec 30, 2013 @ 4:41pm 
It does seem rather unbalanced - even as a special unit it would be strong. Probs best to avoid dwarf games until they sort the problem.
Cleril Dec 30, 2013 @ 8:57pm 
Originally posted by Footissimo:
It does seem rather unbalanced - even as a special unit it would be strong. Probs best to avoid dwarf games until they sort the problem.

Agreed, two vs. Dwarf games in a row I just resigned because of their Annihilator. Something is wrong with the balance of a faction if they don't use any other unit besides 1.
Gaze73 Dec 31, 2013 @ 2:02am 
If he gets the protection bubble+2 paladins around+full gear, it's almost impossible to kill him.
Xappu Jan 1 @ 2:30pm 
dwarves are unbalanced?
Pan Jan 2 @ 2:37am 
dwarf and tf2 is op, true story
Ludofine Jan 2 @ 2:59pm 
YEEEp..
azure Jan 12 @ 12:17pm 
Another issue with fighting dwarfs is their healer is also their tank (who can also heal herself through healing others) I've lost games with my own upgraded offensive units just because a fully upgraded paladin is an unkillable wall. If the dwarves have two upgraded healers, there's really no way to bring her down + stomp her in a turn, and she still does normal damage to your units. Combine that with the shields from their engineer, then defensively AND offensively dwarves are brutal to play against.
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Kemp_J Jan 27 @ 2:58am 
(Disclaimer: I'm nowhere near the most experienced player here) I have yet to win against orcs. I have yet to figure out how it's even possible. That much AOE combined with shields means I can't hang back and pick them off without wasting most of my moves healing, and I can't rush them without losing the majority of my units.

Here I was thinking that everyone turning into bamboo was harsh...
Gaze73 Jan 27 @ 3:15pm 
The only good aoe orc has is the chieftain, you kill the two of them with scrolls/jarate and it's gg. Shaoling sucks hard even with bamboo, I pick them when I want a challenge against a weaker player, haha.
Trip Feb 19 @ 6:13am 
Tribe is actually pretty strong against the Dwarves, and the Spiked Shield is far from useless. The key is to distribute the shields within your ranks so that Grenadiers and Annihilators can't deal their AOE damage without losing their Bubbles and Beer, and keep your healers safely behind the front lines for chain healing and counter attack. Typhoon (perhaps one of the very BEST consumables) is also key in this matchup, since Dwarves have no remote rez and often can't help units that are swept forward and KOed.

Against Dwarves in general, it's important to be aggressive early and keep them from getting set up in safety. They are a strong team for sure, but not unbeatable, especially vs. Tribe.
We are toast Apr 8 @ 7:07pm 
I agree
Vitex Apr 21 @ 3:39am 
Dwarves are op? LOL! Let's not even start this śhit again.
=V3= Lunchboxxx Jun 18 @ 3:39pm 
Originally posted by Vitex:
Dwarves are op? LOL! Let's not even start this śhit again.

Here Here! People b!tch and moan about all the teams. Just learn the weaknesses of all of the teams and put a few more hours into the game getting better. If you lose... learn from your F ups and go on with your life. 273 hours is nothing.

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