^9[TYSB]wrxmath Mar 19 @ 1:33pm
why are discussion always taken away when we speak about hackers
i cant understand why we keep getting erased when its time to speak about hackers ,,,, where is our freedom speech in here
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filmmakerartist1 Mar 19 @ 3:15pm 
Yeah, steam moderators are getting to be rather ban/post removal happy especially when we talk about the truth of what's going on with this and other games. We keep steam in business but it's seeming like they don't want us to have a voice unlesss it's nothing but praise.
PIN 360 Mar 19 @ 3:44pm 
Personally, I have nothing against those who want to speak against cheaters. Honestly, I think it's a good thing to get these people on that cheaters radar so we can avoid them.

On the other hand, however, there are a lot of false accusations and it takes a lot of trust for someone like me to imagine that you are speaking of a cheater with absolution with no chance of you or anyone else being wrong.

So when you get into a topic like this, its tough to truly distinguish someone as a cheater, therefore these posts turn into libel and can deface a legitimate player.

The moderators have to look at this from both sides of the argument and therefore needs to protect the other players innocence. As well, we all have a tendancy to get onto these threads that discuss cheaters and turn them into flame wars with obscenities thrown at both parties of the subject.

So in turn, it would be best to keep these discussions at a minimum and try to keep the peace on these forums.

While I know there are cheaters in this game, as we all know, there is nothing that a thread made about them can really do. All we can do is report them. No matter how long it takes, they do eventually get banned for the most part. So we have to leave it to the powers at be to handle these matters.

In the end, if you see a cheater in game just quit. If the cheater has no one to play with then there can be no cheating done.

Food for thought.
bigbenisdaman Mar 19 @ 4:54pm 
Typically they end up being something along the lines of "player X is cheating ban him". As we all know naming/shaming is not permitted in these disscussions. Game is dead anyway on pc, only couple thousand playing it atm, split between extinction and the other modes. If you want to play it ya shoulda bought it for console, like right now about 125k is on xbox 360.
I just play the singleplayer, extinction, and some squads from time to time with friends.

CoD's not been competitive at all since MW2 due to lag comp, completly OP weapons that noobs use (usually spray and pray ones, or like in BO2 the shotty) and killstreaks that don't really require the player to be skilled to get them/use them. Granted it's fun witha group of friends jus to get on and kill some scrubbies, gets boring quick. I paid $40 for this so I've got my money's worth
Zarno Mar 19 @ 5:22pm 
Originally posted by PIN 360:
Personally, I have nothing against those who want to speak against cheaters. Honestly, I think it's a good thing to get these people on that cheaters radar so we can avoid them.

On the other hand, however, there are a lot of false accusations and it takes a lot of trust for someone like me to imagine that you are speaking of a cheater with absolution with no chance of you or anyone else being wrong.

So when you get into a topic like this, its tough to truly distinguish someone as a cheater, therefore these posts turn into libel and can deface a legitimate player.

The moderators have to look at this from both sides of the argument and therefore needs to protect the other players innocence. As well, we all have a tendancy to get onto these threads that discuss cheaters and turn them into flame wars with obscenities thrown at both parties of the subject.

So in turn, it would be best to keep these discussions at a minimum and try to keep the peace on these forums.

While I know there are cheaters in this game, as we all know, there is nothing that a thread made about them can really do. All we can do is report them. No matter how long it takes, they do eventually get banned for the most part. So we have to leave it to the powers at be to handle these matters.

In the end, if you see a cheater in game just quit. If the cheater has no one to play with then there can be no cheating done.

Food for thought.

Okay, I officially like this guy.

As an aside, OP, freedom of speech doesn't apply in this case.
Evil Flanker [Celt] Mar 20 @ 2:16am 
Originally posted by PIN 360:
In the end, if you see a cheater in game just quit. If the cheater has no one to play with then there can be no cheating done.

Food for thought.

For me this is the worst and only option, forcing a legitimate player NOT to play is the same as theft.
☠ Mr.BLaZe ☠ Mar 20 @ 2:55am 
because they cant do f all about the hackers i heard the ones who get banned is only for 30 days and after that there game gets wiped so no matter what hackers will always be
ACPrime Mar 20 @ 4:56am 
Originally posted by wrxmath:
i cant understand why we keep getting erased when its time to speak about hackers ,,,, where is our freedom speech in here

A moderated forum, by definition, can't have freedom of speech. Just saying.
Der Knick Mar 20 @ 9:01am 
Heard the term freedom of speech somewhere.

but muh rights...
[ROP]Jamebonds1^5 Mar 20 @ 11:50am 
When it is going happen to you? Become man? I see you don't understand what freedom of speech mean. It didn't mean everything you speak is freedome. You can't speak word to harassment, stalker, damages person's reputation, protesters, racist and hateful word for race. Those are not cover by Freedom of Speech, neither this steam community. If you use such language and racist in my house or server, I can kick you out because it is not cover by freedom of speech too. Get it?
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rawgr Mar 22 @ 1:37am 
Freedom of speech lol. Your'e friggin slipped Randy March.
Halt Stop ! Jetzt red' ich Mar 22 @ 5:50am 
IF YOU TELL THE PEOPLE ITS FULL OF HACKERS AND CHEATERS NOONE WILL BUY IT ANYMORE ! ; )
THEY CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH !
Walking Tall (Banned) Mar 22 @ 5:55am 
Originally posted by Hemmschwelle:
IF YOU TELL THE PEOPLE ITS FULL OF HACKERS AND CHEATERS NOONE WILL BUY IT ANYMORE ! ; )
THEY CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH !

Okay, I officially like this guy.
Halt Stop ! Jetzt red' ich Mar 22 @ 8:27am 
Originally posted by Briochewario:
Originally posted by Hemmschwelle:
IF YOU TELL THE PEOPLE ITS FULL OF HACKERS AND CHEATERS NOONE WILL BUY IT ANYMORE ! ; )
THEY CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH !

Okay, I officially like this guy.

Politics and Media go the same Way.
[ROP]Jamebonds1^5 Mar 22 @ 10:13am 
Originally posted by rawgr:
Freedom of speech lol. Your'e friggin slipped Randy March.

Yeah. This community is not cover by freedom of speech.
bigbenisdaman Mar 22 @ 10:27am 
Originally posted by ROPJamebonds1^5:
Originally posted by rawgr:
Freedom of speech lol. Your'e friggin slipped Randy March.

Yeah. This community is not cover by freedom of speech.

We have freedom of speech even in these disscussions, but that don't give us the right to slander someone's name or spread untruths about them. Sure they may be hacking, they also may NOT be hacking. If you knew the amount of games I/someone on my team gets accused of hacking....it's crazy!

Freedom of speech and being an a are 2 differant things as it interferes with my pursuit of happyness.
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