Kuasimoddo Mar 8, 2013 @ 8:47pm
story telling is all ishkabibel
I"ve heard that Witcher 2 is awesome, I got both for a great deal and I'm trying to stick with the progression so I am playing Witcher 1. Admittedly I"m not that far along but already it just jumps all over the place to the point that im having difficutly following the story. Is this a factor of amnesia? Does it start to get better and come together or should I skip 1 and head straight into 2?

I only paid 2.50 for the first one and I've already played a couple of hours so I've gotten a cheap move rental out of it already. interesting but somewhat frustrating.....stick with it or jump ship?
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CarlinFan Mar 8, 2013 @ 10:52pm 
The amnesia is purely a device to enable those players who haven't read the books and those who have, to all start off with a blank slate. You don't need to have read the books and know about Geralt - who he is, his ethics/morality, his history etc - because he himself doesn't know either.

Without knowing how far into the story you are, it's pretty much impossible to tell whether

1) you're not paying enough attention to detail, maybe even expecting to be spoonfed everything, as has been en vogue for a while now (no offense)
2) you're not far enough into the story to be able to make any sense of it; meaning that some elements you find confusing now may just be about to fall into place an click with you (for all we know you might still be playing the prologue)
3) the game's story, setting, atmosphere or whatever just isn't your cup of tea.

I know I hated every single minute of it, when I tried to play it for the first time and barely made it to the middle of chapter 1 before shelving it. When I gave it a second chance (because the setting and characters and some gameplay mechanics I just couldn't forget about), I fell in love and it is one of those games that stand out and became more than just 'one more of the hundreds of games' I played, but one of those quintessential emotional gaming experiences that I'll never forget.

Hang on in there, and if you've got any questions about what has happened in your game so far, fellow witchers will surely like to give you spoiler free explanations. But this game really draws a lot of it's greatness out of trusting the gamer to be patient and intelligent enough to figure out the characters, their relationships and motivations, morals and overall story for themselves.
Kuasimoddo Mar 9, 2013 @ 7:03am 
I am just out of the tutorial but it already appears that the narrative jumps in a very odd fashion
CarlinFan Mar 9, 2013 @ 8:07am 
If you could just elaborate a bit more. I have really no idea what constitutes 'a jumping narrative' from your point of view.

Non-linear as this game may be, the red thread of the main storyarch is pretty consistent and 'non-jumpy', as far as I am concerned.

Do you have any questions or could you give an example of the perceived jumpiness?
Ragnarök Mar 9, 2013 @ 8:12am 
So basically you were attacked and you're out for revenge against the guys who robbed your home and murdered one of your friends. Getting revenge is all well and good but you're still in a harsh Medieval world and you need to make some sort of meager living. So you arrive in the outskirts of Vizima and need to search for leads in the area as well as provide your services to at least be able to afford a roof over your head.

Over the course of Act 1 you should find out what plagues the outskirts and why. Certain events will not seem connected but will come into play later on.
Caoimhe Mar 9, 2013 @ 10:19am 
I honestly don't have a problem following the storyline. I've never read the books and just finished Chapter 1. Talk to as many people as you can and things will start to make sense. I too am playing the first one before I play the second just to keep with the story progression.
larry138 Mar 14, 2013 @ 3:11pm 
Originally posted by Caoimhe:
I honestly don't have a problem following the storyline. I've never read the books and just finished Chapter 1. Talk to as many people as you can and things will start to make sense.
Same here. Obviously make sure to pay attention to cutscenes and dialogue, and I'd also recommend reading the entries that are added to your journal about characters, locations, groups, etc. The background information found in there can be really helpful and flesh things out.
CarlinFan Mar 14, 2013 @ 7:02pm 
The fact that the OP hasn't checked back means that he either gave up or became engulfed in geralt's world and can't pry himself loose.

Hope for him it's the latter.
Kuasimoddo Mar 14, 2013 @ 7:28pm 
Originally posted by CarlinFan:
The fact that the OP hasn't checked back means that he either gave up or became engulfed in geralt's world and can't pry himself loose.

Hope for him it's the latter.

I've actually stuck with it. It turns out there was a combination of issues. Some of the interactions with NPC's weren't helping but I think I've at least started to get the feeling for where things are heading. I guess some things just felt jilted and I wasn't connecting the dots at first. I still haven't gotten to far along but I'm enjoying it more, getting a handle on the combat acutally helped enjoyment quite a bit and made me more tolerant of the narrative disjoints.
tomrandall86 Mar 18, 2013 @ 6:56pm 
The biggest thing for me so far with this is just some of the "run to this person and talk" quests which end up with you running around random places looking for them because they aren't where the quest marker says they are. Other than that I enjoy the system of alchemy, starting the game on hard for the first time has definitely made it challenging already and I'm only on chapter II or III I think!
Kuasimoddo Mar 18, 2013 @ 8:37pm 
As I go further along the more I've enjoyed it. The "feel" of the withcher character is becoming very cool. All adventurers kill for treasure but I can't think of another game where I was essentially a sword for hire against the monsters....Is monster hunter like that? I've never played any of those games. Anyway, I'm glad I stuck with it. It's getting interesting and I'm looking forward to completing it and moving into Witcher 2, which I hear is one of the best RPGs of this generation.

Speaking of which, I can look but anybody know off the top of their heads average play length of the first witcher?
Ragnarök Mar 18, 2013 @ 9:23pm 
I'd guess around 30-40 hours. It took me about 90 though because I'm a raging completionist with RPGs.
larry138 Mar 19, 2013 @ 1:37pm 
Originally posted by Kuasimofo:
Speaking of which, I can look but anybody know off the top of their heads average play length of the first witcher?

I'm around the middle of Chapter 2 and I'm 17 hours in. I'm doing all the main and side quests I run across. The game has five chapters plus a prologue and epilogue, so it seems to be pretty meaty.
ej Mar 19, 2013 @ 6:48pm 
I mostly like quality of writing and quality of storytelling, but still I can agree that story is jumpy. Sometimes characters forget that they know each other, or just act illogically. Quests can be done in non-linear fashion, some suddently start without proper introduction and it is easy to become confused about what is going on. Even if you real all journal entries.
Also, while this is a very good game, it is not very close to the books. I can understand that there are some rules that should be followed to make an entertaining game.. Geralt seems to have a very different personality here.
Kuasimoddo Mar 19, 2013 @ 8:11pm 
Originally posted by ej:
I mostly like quality of writing and quality of storytelling, but still I can agree that story is jumpy. Sometimes characters forget that they know each other, or just act illogically. Quests can be done in non-linear fashion, some suddently start without proper introduction and it is easy to become confused about what is going on. Even if you real all journal entries.
Also, while this is a very good game, it is not very close to the books. I can understand that there are some rules that should be followed to make an entertaining game.. Geralt seems to have a very different personality here.

I think you actually nailed what I was talking about. Some conversations began as if I already had some knowledge that I didn't possess. It made things seem jumpy at first. Probably because I've talked to more people in the area but it seems to have smoothed out.
ej Mar 20, 2013 @ 4:07am 
By the way, a friend told me that he dislikes witcher 2 because the story is too streamlined and overall weaker, compared to the first game. I have yet to confirm it.
This amount of non-linearity is both blessing and a curse. You feel greater immersion, story moves forward no matter where you choose to go, but becomes harder to follow and less convincing.
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