solaris32 Jun 9 @ 4:57pm
Why is Doom 1 E4M2 so rage inducing hard?
There's so many Baron of Hell's, and you have so little ammo. I had to save and reload a ton as I tried running past them. Then the end of the level spams a bunch of enemies at you, so your best bet is to dart past them and hit the exit switch. After this level the episode becomes far easier. But why is this second level so hard compared to the rest?
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Living Tribunal (Banned) Jun 9 @ 5:31pm 
Originally posted by solaris32:
There's so many Baron of Hell's, and you have so little ammo. I had to save and reload a ton as I tried running past them. Then the end of the level spams a bunch of enemies at you, so your best bet is to dart past them and hit the exit switch. After this level the episode becomes far easier. But why is this second level so hard compared to the rest?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-WueeNnNLU watch this. You have to dodge a lot, use the run button..it is your best friend, and find the 200 health orb.
solaris32 Jun 10 @ 2:44am 
Yea I beat it on ultra-violence, and the rest of the episode. But this level is by far the hardest of them all.
Living Tribunal (Banned) Jun 10 @ 4:44am 
Originally posted by solaris32:
Yea I beat it on ultra-violence, and the rest of the episode. But this level is by far the hardest of them all.
I never had problems with it tbh. It can be hard I guess if you have no idea what you're doing in it..
solaris32 Jun 10 @ 5:06am 
Originally posted by Living Tribunal:
Originally posted by solaris32:
Yea I beat it on ultra-violence, and the rest of the episode. But this level is by far the hardest of them all.
I never had problems with it tbh. It can be hard I guess if you have no idea what you're doing in it..
Well it is true I had never actually played Doom before xD.
Living Tribunal (Banned) Jun 10 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by solaris32:
Originally posted by Living Tribunal:
I never had problems with it tbh. It can be hard I guess if you have no idea what you're doing in it..
Well it is true I had never actually played Doom before xD.
The only time I had trouble was when I didn't know where to go. Once I finally realized you had to off everything, get the orb, run back up, and run off the platform into the doorway thing...I got hang of it.
solaris32 Jun 10 @ 5:32am 
Yea my only problem was I had extremely low ammo so had no ability to kill the hordes of Baron of Hells. I only killed the 2 that are at the 3:40 mark in the video because you pretty much have to unless you're a ninja. Thank goodness there's an ammo-saving chainsaw right below that small cliff. There's like 11 BoH's on this level, I don't think any other level has that many. Maybe if I knew the secrets on the first level and had more ammo, but ah well I wanted to do it without "cheating" by not looking everything up.
Living Tribunal (Banned) Jun 10 @ 5:33am 
Originally posted by solaris32:
Yea my only problem was I had extremely low ammo so had no ability to kill the hordes of Baron of Hells. I only killed the 2 that are at the 3:40 mark in the video because you pretty much have to unless you're a ninja. Thank goodness there's an ammo-saving chainsaw right below that small cliff. There's like 11 BoH's on this level, I don't think any other level has that many. Maybe if I knew the secrets on the first level and had more ammo, but ah well I wanted to do it without "cheating" by not looking everything up.
Oh, that's where the run button comes into play...there's ammo near them...you have to run to get it...dodge them...fall off the thing into the lava...run up the stairs into the portal and take them out from a distance. XD After you kill the one you get the plasma gun to off the others...
solaris32 Jun 10 @ 5:35am 
I opted to simply run past them, grabbing the ammo and saving it :).
Living Tribunal (Banned) Jun 10 @ 5:38am 
The cyberdemon is oddly easy if you take him out on the platform path...the only part I've ever hated about that level is the cacaodemons...after you off the cyber demon....run back to I think the center portal you get a BFG...but, when you go to the exit portal there's a few of those ♥♥♥♥ers.
Hammasratas Jun 12 @ 2:18am 
I actually beated this one on ultra-violence killing all monsters expect cyberdemon. Didn't know that there was a way to telefrag it. But yeah it took a good amount of time. Probably hardest level in doom 1 & 2.
Xeno Jun 12 @ 9:23am 
Ya, I think its seriously misplaced at the second mission slot though. This is the kind of level you would expect to find a community mappack, not the official game. That said, its the worst classic Doom level in my opinion, no fun at all and nothing but gimmicky platforming while dodging more projectiles than in Silver Surfer for the NES. This level was put together in only 6 hours or so overnight... and it shows.
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Living Tribunal (Banned) Jun 13 @ 7:41am 
Originally posted by Hammasratas:
I actually beated this one on ultra-violence killing all monsters expect cyberdemon. Didn't know that there was a way to telefrag it. But yeah it took a good amount of time. Probably hardest level in doom 1 & 2.
The stairs leading up to the platform....just shoot rocket at him from there...he can't hit you while you are on the stairs/platforms leading up to the platform.
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