Bud Jan 18, 2013 @ 10:08pm
What should I do if all five AI is toward peace and I really don't want to be?
I sorta cheated and tried a quick while a quick war just to watch my two allies quickly drop me and I am just watching my entire fleet wiped as I wiped out the newly enemy...now I am completely unarmed, one CPU is unarmed but the four others have massive fleets still.

I though of waiting but lets be honest, I could be waiting forever. I maxed out the tech tree in all directions and are building "Endless Empire" in a lot of my systems. I technically WON BUT I technically lost earlier as the computer tends to be able to pull off stuff that no human player can with the early game and won by points.

I am the Hissario (mispelled but the name is never used anywhere else), my CPU opponents are United Empire, two different Automations, and an Omaeba (Mispelled but I should know this one.). I finished off, almost alone, the Cravers and the other Hissario races but these "cowards" are a little too cowardly.

Any advice? Should I flat out just jump the the gun on this one or just sit and wait...and wait for something to happen. Even knowing I technically won, I am playing the military race and I desperately want to beat an 8 player via world domination...so to say...for the achievement that I really want.
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Bud Jan 19, 2013 @ 11:15am 
Update...

I allied with two of the other three and the Sowers flat out didn't want to ally so I mass striked them. All my allies joined ME and the Sowers was left alone. I wish I planned it better as after the 25 turn diplomacy thing, my Allies demanded me to ceasefire or they would drop me.

All against the Sowers is fine but to take on the Galaxy alone is just asking for trouble so I believe it will be 25 more turns until I can try this again. With the ship loss, I was outdoing them 4-1 but still I wonder about the best way to have a fleet that can hold the max amount allowed for ships.
¦ö¦ ƒ ì ᴙ e ¦ö¦ Jan 19, 2013 @ 2:41pm 
I personally tried the whole "try to do Supremacy after the game ends" deal, but realized that once your allies get too strong, you really can't beat them yourself.

Point is, if it doesn't seem like this is heading anywhere (note, you can't win twice in the same game, so you'll never get an achievement for a victory if it's already been taken by you or another faction), you should juts make a new game.
Bud Jan 19, 2013 @ 4:30pm 
Originally posted by ¦ö¦ ƒ ì ᴙ e ¦ö¦:
I personally tried the whole "try to do Supremacy after the game ends" deal, but realized that once your allies get too strong, you really can't beat them yourself.

Point is, if it doesn't seem like this is heading anywhere (note, you can't win twice in the same game, so you'll never get an achievement for a victory if it's already been taken by you or another faction), you should juts make a new game.

I did the whole "wait" thing and I already achieved victory via the "Endless Empire" tech and installing in on a great deal of my systems...far more than what was needed. I now have more money than god, so to say, and I am having a great time being in "overtech" mode so I wish to actually use what I have earned.

Besides, I already won but I have yet to win via a complete victory so I am changing that now.
Bud Jan 19, 2013 @ 4:32pm 
Originally posted by ¦ö¦ ƒ ì ᴙ e ¦ö¦:
I personally tried the whole "try to do Supremacy after the game ends" deal, but realized that once your allies get too strong, you really can't beat them yourself.

Point is, if it doesn't seem like this is heading anywhere (note, you can't win twice in the same game, so you'll never get an achievement for a victory if it's already been taken by you or another faction), you should juts make a new game.

Oh, I actually read the second half and is that true, I can't get victory again in the same game? I really didn't want to start over but I guess I will and this time, cheat via trainer" which I didn't do this time.
Dorok Jan 19, 2013 @ 6:49pm 
The problem is the tech trees have limit so playing much more turns isn't working well. If you want longer party you could try the slowest speed it's supposed be played in 450 turns instead of 300. At half ie 230 I win the endless victory.

A trainer with such game? I wonder, it's not a game where playing more makes character/faction stronger. In a mmorpg a trainer can play well but not that well and still be efficient. But in a game like Endless Space with game limit I wonder if a cheater can do a good job.
Bud Jan 19, 2013 @ 7:12pm 
Originally posted by Dorok:
The problem is the tech trees have limit so playing much more turns isn't working well. If you want longer party you could try the slowest speed it's supposed be played in 450 turns instead of 300. At half ie 230 I win the endless victory.

A trainer with such game? I wonder, it's not a game where playing more makes character/faction stronger. In a mmorpg a trainer can play well but not that well and still be efficient. But in a game like Endless Space with game limit I wonder if a cheater can do a good job.

I hardly ever use them but in this game it almost requires one to learn with. You pretty much have to tech hard all the way up to being able to colonize gas giants and use the warp tunnel or be stuck in your little zone while the computer, who I believe also cheats, establishes a huge foothold right outside your little zone.

But yeah, I use one just to play solo on, not while playing others. But yeah, it doesn't really help with the pirates as they are "rubber banded" to whatever you have, they are right up with you no matter WHERE you are in the tech field and logically - this makes absolutely no sense.

Also, I replayed it later without the trainer, I just mostly used it as the beginning of your first game is so hard and what to do is next to nothing with any possible intro.
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Dorok Jan 19, 2013 @ 7:20pm 
I'm not sure what trainer is, I believed it was programs playing for you: you run the game, run the trainer and come back later with a more experienced character with more gold and so on. But it seems you are talking of a cheater. To allow edit game variables and for example give more gold or such stuff.

I always say it, peoples play games as they want. You feel it's better for this game to use a trainer/cheater that's fine but no way it's mandatory.
Bud Jan 19, 2013 @ 9:47pm 
Originally posted by Dorok:
I'm not sure what trainer is, I believed it was programs playing for you: you run the game, run the trainer and come back later with a more experienced character with more gold and so on. But it seems you are talking of a cheater. To allow edit game variables and for example give more gold or such stuff.

I always say it, peoples play games as they want. You feel it's better for this game to use a trainer/cheater that's fine but no way it's mandatory.

I feel like I wrote this already but what I wrote didn't post. I just used the trainer to get a grasp of this game and to quickly be able to travel outside of my starting "hole". I have beat the game since then without cheating and if you find the same trainer as the one I used, the Dust cheat does not work.

...just wish more people who bought this game would play it, 80% never pass turn ten and the game isn't that bad. I just wish the creators wouldn't have the CPU cheat so much...expecually in the start.
Bud Jan 20, 2013 @ 12:57am 
Update and issue closed...

I just flat out attacked one of the remain ones when THEY chose to drop the alliance. The battle was so easily outmatched that I cleared them up and their who empire. Then after that yet another one attacked me and now I am left with just one empire left and I own over 80% of the land and honestly have more money than god at this point due to my ships not dying when I took out scores of them.

Oh, I found it does better to just build on the best class of ship and redesign different versions of that ship, this isn't the game Homeworld where size matters and a fleet of 5 of the biggest ship will clear up the computers fleet by quite a bit...often without even taking damage.
Bud Jan 20, 2013 @ 3:11pm 
...feel bad about killing my main ally at the end though, last time I will do this but it was for the achievements for a total victory.
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