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Trash Boat 2 сер 2013 о 19:09
Nightmare is too much of a step up from hard.
I didn't die on any boss with hugo on hard but ended up dieing 20+ on the first mini boss with toal on nightmare. Does anyone else feel like theres a difficulty missing inbetween hard and nightmare?
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Sara  [розробник] 2 сер 2013 о 23:16 
Try just grinding out a level. Levels can make a huge difference in this game.
Loliconvict 3 сер 2013 о 1:30 
No. Nightmare difficulty is there for only the most dedicated and extreme players who want a serious challenge so it should be significantly tougher than hard. When it comes to harder than hard mode difficulties I believe it should lean towards being too difficult as opposed to too easy.
SnowPin 3 сер 2013 о 4:50 
You're also playing Toal, he's IMO the hardest character to play.
Sahri 4 сер 2013 о 3:48 
It's called Nightmare for a reason :P
Fel 8 сер 2013 о 7:56 
Toal has a line in his description saying that it's for good players only.

He is harder than the others, and if you add the step up of dificulty too, you end up getting hard time even on normal mobs from the get-go.
Admitedly, I only completed the game with yunica on normal prior to trying this, and ended up abusing the invulnerability from the thunder spell, but even the wind spell seems way less useful (no area of effect, forced move).

I guess Toal just needs us to get used to his very close combat style.
c1oud666 13 сер 2013 о 10:45 
thia game isnt all that hard on nightmare (try oath in felgana, not impossible but harder) like sara said just level up youd be suprised how much od a difference it makes
Trash Boat 13 сер 2013 о 12:36 
i decided just to beat it on hard, if i have to grind to beat bosses at my skill level i might as well just lower the difficulty.
Noizy Puppy 18 вер 2013 о 1:46 
Leveling up in Ys games makes all the difference in the world, especially on nightmare.
Totally Not A Bot 19 вер 2013 о 2:00 
Toal is a gigantic step up from Yunica/Hugo in difficulty- likely for the first boss alone, who is way harder than the bat ♥♥♥♥♥♥. But, yeah, levelling up makes a gigantic difference in this game- just having +1 defence can take those 7 hits down to 3 or 2, which really adds up. Getting weapon upgrades is pretty much compulsory, too.
Waypoint 21 жов 2013 о 12:32 
Make sure you're at least at level for every boss you run across (check the bestiary). One of Nightmare's main gimmicks is to considerably inflate the effect of level discrepancy on the damage you do and take. If you're still having problems, even grinding out one level over them will tremendously reduce the damage you take.

Also, Galleon is actually quick enough to mess you up and doesn't follow a really easy pattern like the other first midbosses. Hope you learned that dash move really fast, because you're immune to damage while using it and you have enough of a window to squeeze in just a couple hits between his attacks.

Also Hugo is kind of an easymode character for most fights and not even Nightmare boss rush is all that difficult for him. Toal actually has some hard fights that he can't cheese with an overpowered shield and a ranged attack, though some of the later ones are kind of trivialized by his fire attack (Pictimos, Zava, and Dalles are made hilariously easy, even on Nightmare).
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Kaworu 8 гру 2013 о 11:48 
Now I understand why Toal in Hard was that complicated compared to Hugo in Normal.
Zecele 15 гру 2013 о 17:45 
I beat Nightmare difficulty with Toal funny enough i found him the easiest character to use.
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