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Slice of Sparta Jul 9, 2014 @ 1:04pm
This game's music could NOT be more Japanese.
Not saying that's a bad thing. But if "Japanese Music" was in the dictionary, this game's picture should be next to it.
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Fabius Jul 9, 2014 @ 1:19pm 
Japanese company + Japanese target audience = Japanese music.
Slice of Sparta Jul 9, 2014 @ 1:22pm 
I know, but still. This is like the epitome of what makes Japanese music "Japanese".
altt acc Jul 9, 2014 @ 1:23pm 
/thread
Quint the Electric Catfish Jul 9, 2014 @ 1:24pm 
What exactly do you mean by the music being very Japanese?

I'm curious to ask because I have some hypotheses about stylistic differences in music in games from different regions, and I want to know what it is you think makes this music sound "Japanese".
Slice of Sparta Jul 9, 2014 @ 1:27pm 
Hard to pinpoint how the chord structure is involved, but I know that it is. But mostly the epic metal guitar shredding, worded/wordless choral lines, string ensembles, all mashed into one song. I suppose my point is just that this has nearly every cliche of Japanese music haha
Quint the Electric Catfish Jul 9, 2014 @ 1:44pm 
I see. I haven't really heard that much Japanese music other than some anisong and background music, so I can't say, though if you're contrasting this to western metal...well I guess I haven't heard that much of that either.

What are you contrasting it to?

Being more of a harmony person, I think I've generally noticed that J-pop seems follow western classical harmony more often than western pop. Furthermore, specifically regarding game music, it seems that western devs generally seem to prefer music that takes a back seat to the action and atmosphere, while Japanese devs generally seem to prefer music that's takes a more noticeable, conspicuous role in defining the atmosphere and action -- though this is not necessarily limited to Japanese devs (take the soundtrack of Guacamelee, for example, as opposed to (say) Portal). I actually thought you were going to say this bit about game music!
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Slice of Sparta Jul 9, 2014 @ 1:53pm 
I did notice that there a lot of epic altered V chords resolving to the I; you won't find many altered chords in ANY region's pop music.

I agree that Western music is more atmospheric and Japanese is a little more "in your face", if you will. I never said that I didn't like this game's music, but it definitely stands out and is meant to be noticed. If you want to play a game that I think has perfect music (in the sense that it fits the game perfectly), then play Metroid Prime. Not only is it an absolutely amazing game, but the music fits every environment, enemy, and situation perfectly. This game's type of music is more of "let's compose this super epic song and then slap it into the game", versus carefully writing music that helps fully immerse you in the atmosphere of the game like Metroid Prime. I'd never say this game's music is bad, but I do prefer music like that of Metroid Prime.
Sera Jul 9, 2014 @ 2:01pm 
It's the usual JRPG music and I love it... Ys is just so awesome.
Quint the Electric Catfish Jul 9, 2014 @ 2:08pm 
Metroid Prime does have excellent music. Especially that crashed ship theme...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcVdS60wyOQ

So beautiful.

That said, as a matter of taste, I'm personally more fond of music that helps to define the atmosphere/action, especially strongly melodic music like that of this game, and I consider Ys Origin one of my favorite games of all time, in part because of the strength of its soundtrack.

What's your favorite tracks, by the way? Mine include Water Prison, Scarlet Tempest, Scars of Divine Wing, Bonds with Companions, My Lord Our Brave, and Beyond the Beginning (either version). Honorable mention to Samsara and Paramnesia for having a wicked awesome beginning. But Scarlet Tempest is definitely the catchiest of them all.
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Whiskey_Fox Jul 9, 2014 @ 4:36pm 
Haven't played this game yet but 1+2 (also on steam) have VERY JRPG soundtracks and it's fantastic
Quint the Electric Catfish Jul 19, 2014 @ 9:52pm 
Just curious what you (the OP, Slice of Sparta -- or anyone else) think of the music of Jake Kaufman, a.k.a. virt. He writes videogame music, such as the following:
Scurge: Hive - Industrial
Scurge: Hive - Deadscape
Shantae: Risky's Revenge - Boss Battle
Shovel Knight - Of Devious Machinations
FX3 - Survivors[virt.bandcamp.com] (not a game, just from a virt album)
markgriffn Aug 26, 2014 @ 11:30am 
I know people are going to argue with him, but we all know this game has a typical japanese video game ( and other media ) soundtrack. Extremely melodic and quick tempoed. While western games will most often have more ambient, atmospheric and epic feel ( Im thinking movie themes when I use the word epic here )to their soundtrack. I know everyone is going go around and find the few examples in which this doesnt apply. If all you were to have is the music when asked what game was that you would be able to tell the difference between final fantasy and Baldurs Gate, Elder Scrolls and Star Ocean, Tomb Raider or Sonic the Hedghog. Yes some japanese games use western styles of music such as Resident Evil, Silent Hill, or Metroid but those were games with the western audience in mind when they made them ( Y's clearing is made with a japanese audience in mind ) and Wayforward games have a japanese style to there soundtrack and they will admit that was what they were going for. The op is right, this game has very typical jrpg music, for anyone who gets offended by this, I say good, you deserve to be offended for being such an idiot.

P.S. I love the japanese melodic style of music, Especially Castlevania and Sonic game soundtracks. But there have been times where Western composers have shined above there japanese counterparts, where nintendo would of made a zany and comical, and very melodic soundtrack alot like the Mario games when Donkey Kong Country was made, we were instead blown away by the works of Dave Wise as he made an atmospheric, ambient, epic, and emotional masterpiece that fit beautifully with the game.
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Quint the Electric Catfish Aug 26, 2014 @ 10:49pm 
I love all great music, no matter where or who it comes from. I've been obsessing over Ukrainian composer Victor Kosenko's G minor Pasasacaglia lately.
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