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Saga Apr 27, 2013 @ 9:15am
Tiac ultimate ( shield )
Hey,

I make a short subject to ask for a modification on the shield of Tiac, which makes him powerful

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CerberusZ Apr 27, 2013 @ 10:47am 
I unno'. I feel like it doesn't cost enough for how effective it is. Maybe making it cost 3 bars of rage rather than 2 would balance it out. Or give it a max amount of damage it can take before it breaks, like Valle's.
Emonium Apr 27, 2013 @ 11:11am 
Well Tiac is pretty slow and vulnerable without it. Making it 3 bars would probably make people focus more on his counter attack and that would lkely get some complaints too.
I don't totally disagree with you but it could either be a really good thing or really bad thing.
CAST HaNYolO Apr 27, 2013 @ 11:35am 
His power armor isn't as strong as everyone is saying. And its even more weird coming from a NVM player. I thought Kross would atleast recruit people with proper knowledge about the game. Seems i was wrong.
Emonium Apr 27, 2013 @ 11:38am 
Originally posted by SSHaNYolO:
His power armor isn't as strong as everyone is saying. And its even more weird coming from a NVM player. I thought Kross would atleast recruit people with proper knowledge about the game. Seems i was wrong.
What are NVM and Kross? What are those brackets for at all actually? Some sort of way to make guilds/clans since the feature isn't out yet.
Geminosity Apr 27, 2013 @ 1:10pm 
Pretty much Emonium. NVM is the clan, Kross is the guy who runs it. He's a good player and generally pleasant person who I've bumped into in the game a few times :3

As for Tiac's armour, it's easy enough to just wait it out due to Tiac not having any particularly good ways around blocking, but if your team isn't that knowledgeable it can be devastating to have an armoured tiac run in and start swinging as your team tries to attack them.

Once lost 2 of our 4 teammates to a lone Tiac doing that at the start of a match... all I could do was get to safety and type in chat "Stop attacking him! just block or run away until he stops glowing!" but it was too late and nobody reads chat in the middle of a fight :P
Diablish Apr 27, 2013 @ 3:36pm 
I actually agree with some sort of modification. Tiac is one of the fastest characters in the game. He can do that dive strike at you where he runs super fast so when you say "you can just run away" thats bs, cuz I play gaspar and even i have trouble floating away. The whole way you gain RP in the game is by attacking people. Tiac can essentially activate his shield and go in and do heavy damage on an entire group, and if he puts enough hits in then he can just recast the shield over and over which is what makes it OP. Danmei on the other hand is so slow that his invulnerability is easy to avoid, as is lich if you get away in time. I have no complaint over invulnerability, and I know he doesnt actually have that with his move. But the reduced damage and not being able to stun him or knock him back makes him OP when he can continuously recast that same move.
FrozenEdge Apr 27, 2013 @ 11:08pm 
it doesn't need a change, leave as it is.

smart people just run away/block it and wait it out until the buff disappears (Tiac's 2 bars = *poof*), then proceed on attacking him.

seriously i rather complain Renoah's "unblockable all-hit KS-ing" Q skill, Elika's "i'm invincible while i hit everything on my screen" Q skill, or Renny's (notably on Fire Renny) Immortality Q skill.... Tiac's Q is just basic
Saga Apr 28, 2013 @ 5:45am 
"His power armor isn't as strong as everyone is saying. And its even more weird coming from a NVM player. I thought Kross would atleast recruit people with proper knowledge about the game. Seems i was wrong."

No comment.

I think that it would be necessary nerf ( it's god mod guys ! ) the shield of Tiac, but he need to be on its combos. ( It is what I think. )

When i said "nerf" it can be a increase of rp's cost.
Last edited by Saga; Apr 28, 2013 @ 5:55am
{}poOp{} Bobert13 Apr 29, 2013 @ 7:29am 
The Dragon Shield seems most effective when you're jumping into a group of three or more enemies. In this kind of situation, the no stun effect can be a gamechanger if you can use it to take out an off-guard character. In 1on1 against a skilled player, it's about useless and either the counter (F) or Guard Breaks are where your RP should be going with him.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=140147688#46660 That link covers Tiac (and most characters basic strategies) pretty comprehensively. It doesn't cover how to counter specific enemies best, but against a Valle, I'd be trying to use the F spender as much as possible while keeping her on fire (LR). If you're pressuring while she's blocking, never throw out the third L or RR after the first two LL's. That's just gonna open you up for counter-attack.
Last edited by {}poOp{} Bobert13; Apr 29, 2013 @ 7:30am
Souriya Apr 29, 2013 @ 10:40pm 
It's fine as it is. Most people that seem to have a problem with it are the ones who are trying to fight him while his Q is activated. Just simply jump around and avoid him until it runs out.
Emonium Apr 29, 2013 @ 10:44pm 
Originally posted by Souriya:
It's fine as it is. Most people that seem to have a problem with it are the ones who are trying to fight him while his Q is activated. Just simply jump around and avoid him until it runs out.
It doesn't run out, it needs to be destroyed or the Cezanne has to Q again which will bring up another chamber but destroy the existing one.
Souriya Apr 29, 2013 @ 11:24pm 
I have no idea what you are even trying to say there. As I said though, just simply avoid fighting a Tiac until his Q skill runs out. The duration of the skill is only about 10 seconds.
FrozenEdge Apr 29, 2013 @ 11:25pm 
Originally posted by Emonium:
Originally posted by Souriya:
It's fine as it is. Most people that seem to have a problem with it are the ones who are trying to fight him while his Q is activated. Just simply jump around and avoid him until it runs out.
It doesn't run out, it needs to be destroyed or the Cezanne has to Q again which will bring up another chamber but destroy the existing one.
dude.. what are you talking about? he's talking about avoiding Tiac's Q buff instead of fighting it head on... and you came here with Cezanne's Cage Q :/
Emonium Apr 30, 2013 @ 3:36am 
Originally posted by FrozenEdge:
Originally posted by Emonium:
It doesn't run out, it needs to be destroyed or the Cezanne has to Q again which will bring up another chamber but destroy the existing one.
dude.. what are you talking about? he's talking about avoiding Tiac's Q buff instead of fighting it head on... and you came here with Cezanne's Cage Q :/
Wrong thread... it was a late night.
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