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Saturos Apr 24, 2013 @ 11:10pm
Cezanne Meta
And to think he wasn't likely to get any changes, let alone a nerf. RIP old JL.

/rantfromacezmain
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Edalborez Apr 24, 2013 @ 11:13pm 
I was gonna ragepost about it immediately, but I think I'll have to let it sink in for a while before reserving judgment. No more easymode at least. Gotta wait forever to use it on ground enemies, and now can't really chase people at all :(

At least we still have jR.
Saturos Apr 24, 2013 @ 11:18pm 
Originally posted by Edalborez:
I was gonna ragepost about it immediately, but I think I'll have to let it sink in for a while before reserving judgment.

I did it for you, it's cool.
Edalborez Apr 24, 2013 @ 11:20pm 
Tamest rage I've ever seen :3
Nyx Apr 24, 2013 @ 11:26pm 
I don't play Cezanne that much, but I agree, that he was really annoying to fight in close combat , but on the other side its almost impossible to chase/catch certain other characters for him, since he's damned slow and has no real fast movement ability. We'll how this turns out.
Last edited by Nyx; Apr 24, 2013 @ 11:27pm
CAST Sliferx Apr 25, 2013 @ 1:34am 
*Cries* Now its useless, JL at close range can be easily countered by skilled players. It really really sucks using it ingame now. Q however got an awesome buff. Still not enough as compensation. Right now JL rarely has any use against high skilled player. (I guess it was nerfed to prevent JL spammers, even though that only worked effectively against noobs.)

EDIT : Made a topic about it on Suggestion forum.
Last edited by CAST Sliferx; Apr 25, 2013 @ 1:50am
Silver Toilet Roll May 3, 2013 @ 2:29am 
Pfft JR all the way.
Lunaroh May 3, 2013 @ 7:33am 
I really don't know how to punish JR spammers yet. When i manage to do it, it's mostly by luck.
if i block it, it pushes me back way too much for me to catch up before he does it again.
Last edited by Lunaroh; May 3, 2013 @ 7:37am
Edalborez May 3, 2013 @ 9:28am 
Originally posted by Lunaroh:
I really don't know how to punish JR spammers yet. When i manage to do it, it's mostly by luck.
if i block it, it pushes me back way too much for me to catch up before he does it again.

Most characters have some way of damaging Cezanne from a farther range, so they are generally better off just doing that if the player is really intent on spamming jR. Cezanne can't chase worth a damn and it moves him backwards so they cannot spam it forever this way.

The characters who lack such an option are Elika, Sewon (to an extent; his own power attack jR can outrange), Tiac, and Valle. Elika I would just block and use R. Tiac and Valle can try a well-timed dash attack. The Rennys can try the teleport attack as well, since Cezanne's better counter to that (jL) is now pretty terrible. Players with more experience on these matchups from the side of the not-Cezanne player may be able to provide more insight here.
Saturos May 5, 2013 @ 7:30pm 
Anyone got tips for dealing with range characers like Richard or Renoah? I'm taking so much ♥♥♥♥ from them simply because I'm outranged and less mobile.
CAST Sliferx May 5, 2013 @ 7:53pm 
Originally posted by Saturos:
Anyone got tips for dealing with range characers like Richard or Renoah? I'm taking so much ♥♥♥♥ from them simply because I'm outranged and less mobile.

Its tough to be honest, especially now.

1. Your cage is the most important tool now against both of them. Make good use of it, time it wisely.

2. Constantly block ♥♥♥♥'s shots until you get close enough, use shift when you're kinda close (if he's playing kiting game forever) and just LLL if you think you can get him while he's running (kind of the same as tip #3 but renoah is slower so its easier on renoah)

3. When chasing renoah try LLL, its true that you will stop when you do it but it can and will hit her if aimed properly. This needs lots of confidence, because when you're chasing renoah you usually dont want to stop and keep chasing her, but this LLL from back is not that hard to actually hit but it might take some time to get used to it.

4. If there is some kind of height difference, always try to do your JL. For example ♥♥♥♥/renoah going up the slope/ramp you can usually catch them there, or if they are falling from a ledge... you know.

5. I guess you could make use of JL skating while chasing as well (which is using JL before landing) EDIT : this used to be effective prenerf, now its not as useful but can work in a very few situations.

6. One of the important attacks to use is Alt+JR the range(damage too) is very impressive and can catch them easily, practice with range in training mode and check it out. Poison is always nice :)

Thats all i can give you for now i guess... sadly renoah can be more of a problem than ♥♥♥♥. At least ♥♥♥♥ you could block his shots but renoah.. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ these pistols.
Last edited by CAST Sliferx; May 6, 2013 @ 11:19am
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