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Kokuei Apr 28, 2013 @ 12:23am
Combat Lack Luster.
(>ALL TROLLS, FLAMERS, AND HATERS BACK OFF. THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION OF THE GAME and FEED BACK IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T RESPOND.<)


The combat lacks the playability, it's more like saying hey I'll play mortal combat with only baraka while everyone else uses all the great characters straight outta their pocket/bank account.

LoL, pay 2 play is getting seriously inexcusable.

It's more like pay 2 WIN instead of pay to play.


The game should have been in a trail/demo with all characters unlocked for new people to try it out and learn all ropes then if they wanted to they could purchase the FULL GAME then fight with players online.

Keeps the "pocket noobs" or "babies of the family" from winning all the time.

It's funny how now these days people don't mind getting their a** handed to them by some TWINK that just got their "allowance" for the day while the true hard core gamer sits there going wtf happened I can't use the characters I need to fight this guy, but yet they can go out and just have it handed to them because they're a freakin' twink?

Screw that.

Btw, you guys can seriously find a way to run this game on something lower than just 4 gb of ram because if I can do it so can you.

(>ALL TROLLS, FLAMERS, AND HATERS BACK OFF. THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION OF THE GAME and FEED BACK IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T RESPOND.<)
Last edited by Kokuei; Apr 28, 2013 @ 12:41am
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Maestromind Apr 28, 2013 @ 1:41am 
Kokuei the game is still in development, and is in an open beta/early access stage, so unfortunately buying 'full game" isn't a possibility at this point.

Regarding the game being 'pay to win" there are currently twelve characters with a free to play rotation of seven per week. Every hero has thus far has been free to play more than once, the only difference between buying or not buying a hero is whether or not you get to play them when they are out of the rotation. So in theory there is really no "upper hand" in purchasing a hero rather than getting to play them as you wish.

Once again your feedback is appreciated and I invite you to read the following post from the team:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/207230/discussions/0/828935269295091958/

I also invite you to read a post as authored by a member of the community that focuses on balance in the game, this post can be read here:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/207230/discussions/11/828935672382098872/

Finally regarding the nature of some of your posts I ask you to keep in mind the Steam Discussions Rules and Guidelines
hickwarrior Apr 28, 2013 @ 3:42am 
You're quite flammatory kokuei. I don't care if you say that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s need to back off, you need to tone it down as well. You're angry that you're not winning right now, so count or do anything to take your mind off and come back with a clear head.

That said, This game is no pay 2 win. At all. All characters have weaknesses and strengths. They are all beatable, the balance is quite solid. The best you can do is voice your frustration at what is killing you. When you know that, think of a way to beat that strategy. If there's a very specific way to deal with it, like 1 or 2 counters, I think it's broken and needs to be looked at.

This game definitely feels like your skill is the most important factor of the game.
Sliferx Apr 28, 2013 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Kokuei:
The combat lacks the playability, it's more like saying hey I'll play mortal combat with only baraka while everyone else uses all the great characters straight outta their pocket/bank account.

LoL, pay 2 play is getting seriously inexcusable.

It's more like pay 2 WIN instead of pay to play.

First of all this game is far from p2w, i dont see how its p2w if you eventually get to play every character ingame, as Maestromind said 7 characters a week.


Originally posted by Kokuei:
The game should have been in a trail/demo with all characters unlocked for new people to try it out and learn all ropes then if they wanted to they could purchase the FULL GAME then fight with players online.

You have all characters unlocked for you to try in training mode so i dont really get what you mean, and there will be a tutorial mode in the future to teach you stuff. (At least dev said its in the works)

Originally posted by Kokuei:
Keeps the "pocket noobs" or "babies of the family" from winning all the time.

It's funny how now these days people don't mind getting their a** handed to them by some TWINK that just got their "allowance" for the day while the true hard core gamer sits there going wtf happened I can't use the characters I need to fight this guy, but yet they can go out and just have it handed to them because they're a freakin' twink?

Screw that.

First are you implying that you're a hardcore gamer? because you don't look like one. After playing Archeblade for only 1.1 hours you come here and talk about p2w and kids beating you.

I hope you do realize that just because you lost to someone doesn't mean he's a 12-year old spoiled kid who won because he had a better character than you. This game is more about skill than anything else, you didn't have enough skill to beat your opponent, thats it. The current rotation is great actually, i have no idea why you're complaining about p2w with awesome characters in free rotation. Just tells me that you're not very good in the game yet, and thats normal.. you only played 1.1 hours.
Kreddi Apr 28, 2013 @ 8:36am 
Please don't take this guys feedback seriously...
DYSEQTA Apr 28, 2013 @ 8:41am 
That wasn't feedback. That was a tantrum.
NeedCoffee Apr 28, 2013 @ 8:45am 
(>ALL TROLLS, FLAMERS, AND HATERS BACK OFF. THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION OF THE GAME and FEED BACK IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T RESPOND.<)

this was my favorite part.

implying anyone who disageees is a troll and is in the wrong.

you have played this game for 1.1 hours and expect know for sure the champions not in this weeks rotation are needed to counter the ones who are?

go back to tourchlight.



Geminosity Apr 28, 2013 @ 1:18pm 
Isn't this the same guy who posted pretty much the same stuff under the title "Characters are OK" and claimed to be a big game reviewer? Or am I just getting people confuzzled? :o
Emonium Apr 28, 2013 @ 4:53pm 
All characters were unlocked at one point actually. The fact that you believe you need certain characters to beat certain other characters means you haven't spent enough times.
Such brats don't deserve to play.
Kokuei Apr 28, 2013 @ 11:19pm 
Originally posted by Maestromind:
Kokuei the game is still in development, and is in an open beta/early access stage, so unfortunately buying 'full game" isn't a possibility at this point.

Regarding the game being 'pay to win" there are currently twelve characters with a free to play rotation of seven per week. Every hero has thus far has been free to play more than once, the only difference between buying or not buying a hero is whether or not you get to play them when they are out of the rotation. So in theory there is really no "upper hand" in purchasing a hero rather than getting to play them as you wish.

Once again your feedback is appreciated and I invite you to read the following post from the team:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/207230/discussions/0/828935269295091958/

I also invite you to read a post as authored by a member of the community that focuses on balance in the game, this post can be read here:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/207230/discussions/11/828935672382098872/

Finally regarding the nature of some of your posts I ask you to keep in mind the Steam Discussions Rules and Guidelines


That quite honestly doesn't make since other then to find another way to make money so that people can win.

I stay at this point of reasoning because you can't ever randomize a handful of characters for a player to use and expect them to win against someone who has bought all the ones they need to win.

No matter how you slice it there's still no difference in this game needing to be a "try before you buy" game "instead of a pay 2 win."


There's no way in this life or the next are you ever going to be able to make this game work with a "character rotation" or better yet a: "money grab pay to win" rotation for those coward based twinks out there.


Also to everyone else in disbelief you all obviously don't understand how fighting mechanics work at all, the will of the player, and most of all their skill.

The idea about the game is not to master every character it's to know what you're going to pick before you go out and realize if that was the best choice or not for that particular fight.


None of you obviously have played REAL competitive games like Halo 4 or the Gears of Wars series have you?

Especially Mortal Kombat games, you guys have no clue of what real gaming is or even what action is.


Archeblade = LIMITED Arcade Combat.


No thank you.



Oh and to those little pricks out there always trying to hate and troll me I want you to specifically know you guys I have tried enough "Arcade Combat BS" games that were put out just like this one before there's NO DIFFERENCE other then you now limit characters you play with to decrease value in the game so ♥♥♥♥ OFF.


I've seen better then this, but the best part is I don't have to end up forking my money to you guys.

I'll just watch you guys burn because you're just a simple Pay 2 Win game, there are many like you out here that'll put this game to the floor in a heartbeat.


Go ahead keep trash talking all you want, but I know what you are and know how these games go down.
CerberusZ Apr 28, 2013 @ 11:26pm 
Originally posted by Maestromind:
Kokuei the game is still in development, and is in an open beta/early access stage, so unfortunately buying 'full game" isn't a possibility at this point.

Maestro, you should have also mentioned how you're working on making an in-game currency that will allow you to purchase heroes/champions/whatever after you've earned enough.

As stated here: http://steamcommunity.com/app/207230/discussions/10/828934913329872250/
Kokuei Apr 28, 2013 @ 11:30pm 
Originally posted by CerberusZ:
Originally posted by Maestromind:
Kokuei the game is still in development, and is in an open beta/early access stage, so unfortunately buying 'full game" isn't a possibility at this point.

Maestro, you should have also mentioned how you're working on making an in-game currency that will allow you to purchase heroes/champions/whatever after you've earned enough.

As stated here: http://steamcommunity.com/app/207230/discussions/10/828934913329872250/


Hm... Maybe this could help me look on the silver linning then.

Okay community I'll try getting ahold of this and be a bit more paitient okay?


Just IGNORE my previous comments from ABOVE so you don't get confused.


I agree, I didn't really realize completely that this game was still in development at all.



I will wait till then, but also did want to say I do LOVE the graphics AND interesting design of each of the characters though.
DYSEQTA Apr 29, 2013 @ 4:58am 
Originally posted by Kokuei:
Just IGNORE my previous comments from ABOVE so you don't get confused.
Actually no, I for one won't be ignoring any of the above. You have shown yourself to be a grade A d1ckhead with the intellect of a frozen pea. I won't be paying the slightest bit of notice of anything you have to say ever again.
NeedCoffee Apr 29, 2013 @ 5:12am 
Originally posted by Kokoro:
Originally posted by Kokuei:
Just IGNORE my previous comments from ABOVE so you don't get confused.
Actually no, I for one won't be ignoring any of the above. You have shown yourself to be a grade A d1ckhead with the intellect of a frozen pea. I won't be paying the slightest bit of notice of anything you have to say ever again.

LOL, dang it kokoro. You beat me to it. I was going to quote the exact same thing, and post someting similar. :P
Pengu Apr 29, 2013 @ 9:47pm 
Pay to Win. That really mostly originated from cash shops in MMORPG's. Buying the game or paying for characters and skins is to support the game and the creators of the game. If you buy a legendary skin it doesn't up any of your stats, just makes you look cooler. All characters have the same stats and the same playability. Screaming pay to win at every chance a person gets, is the new generation way. Good job.
Big Boom Boom Apr 29, 2013 @ 10:34pm 
Actually it's pay to win, since OP couldn't afford a decent laptop to run the game without graphics lagging. For example you can't compete in Crisis 3 multiplayer if your PC/laptop run on 7.5 FPS, it's frigging pay to win right there.
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