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V. Apr 21, 2013 @ 8:09am
Valle swingspeed
So watch this clip I recorded a couple minutes ago...
Focus on Valle. Is that swing speed normal? If so how do I counter this?

http://www.twitch.tv/imacosmonaut/c/2185106
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Edalborez Apr 21, 2013 @ 9:36am 
Not sure what's unusual about it. 2 jump Ls in the same jump.

The times where she misses you can attempt to hover in some direction. Even when the second attack hits, Renny can teleport, Armor characters can use armor rage skills, etc moves that have quick startup.
Hardstyle ^_- Apr 21, 2013 @ 11:02am 
its same combo you can do with dan mei/elika by pressing J+L.
its an infinit juggle if done correctly and impossible to counter (at leats in a 1o1 situation)
Last edited by Hardstyle ^_-; Apr 21, 2013 @ 11:17am
[S] ☆Aegis Edge☆ - Streaming Apr 21, 2013 @ 12:35pm 
Haha Shinjirou strikes again XD. Honestly, block it until he makes a mistake which he does a few times in that video. You need to be quick and take advantage of it, that combo is far less than perfect.

The swing speed is normal there for that attack.
Grandpa Spoops Apr 21, 2013 @ 12:53pm 
i fought Shinjirou and Xaviran in the same nagas pit room doing the same thing, i just went renoah and and shot them in the back when they tried to do it to anyone else, sadly they just went doubles and ganged on me when they had the chance to see me.
Grandpa Spoops Apr 21, 2013 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by Loke Eleven:
Haha Shinjirou strikes again XD. Honestly, block it until he makes a mistake which he does a few times in that video. You need to be quick and take advantage of it, that combo is far less than perfect.

The swing speed is normal there for that attack.

Shinjirou does make a lot of mistakes but from the long match i was in with him, and the mistakes yea its plausible to get away from it but the based attack speed of the jump attack is faster than pretty much most basic attacks in the game. and the stun left after blocking a hit is lengthy enough so that he can counter you if you try to attack or dodge. Its actually really easy to do this combo but being nagas pit people take advantage of the one person being destroyed and race for the kill.
Emonium Apr 21, 2013 @ 3:50pm 
Lol it's Shinjirou. If only he checked the forums.
V. Apr 21, 2013 @ 4:26pm 
So it's a legit tactic understood. Who is Shinjirou? seems a ton of people know him.
Emonium Apr 21, 2013 @ 4:48pm 
Originally posted by V.:
So it's a legit tactic understood. Who is Shinjirou? seems a ton of people know him.
Well I just found out today that he has his own server with his name in it and found him there. He seems to prefer NagasPit, same as me so I run into him a lot. You can ask him who he is there but just a few hours he told me he liked being unknown after I told him about the Valle that someone named 'best' back in the Scrim group. So don't know him, just stare k?
Hookz & Ass Apr 21, 2013 @ 8:06pm 
Ah I ran into him a couple of times, he runs from me now.
Grandpa Spoops Apr 21, 2013 @ 10:06pm 
I knew its was shinjirou and Xavian but i dont really mention names unless its proven
Agrippa Apr 22, 2013 @ 12:22am 
I just tested this in an empty server with a friend. it is not an infinite combo, it's just that Valle can use JL two times per jump. They are blockable though.
Grandpa Spoops Apr 22, 2013 @ 1:39am 
Originally posted by Agrippa:
I just tested this in an empty server with a friend. it is not an infinite combo, it's just that Valle can use JL two times per jump. They are blockable though.
we know its blockable but thats the problem, its incredibly difficult to get away from because of its stun lock.
Emonium Apr 22, 2013 @ 7:45am 
Originally posted by Agrippa:
I just tested this in an empty server with a friend. it is not an infinite combo, it's just that Valle can use JL two times per jump. They are blockable though.
The JL sometimes breaks my block. Weird
[S] ☆Aegis Edge☆ - Streaming Apr 22, 2013 @ 11:30am 
Yea I use it on Valle and sometimes people seem to stop blocking and get away, but I have had cases where people have claimed that I am "Cheating" because I hit them while they were blocking, perhaps the combo has some bugs of it own.
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