silmwarensurion Jul 27, 2013 @ 7:37pm
GrimCrock Legend of Lame
Well, I cant say this isnt going to be a well formulated opinion. As, I will be covering points that I like, as well as things i dislike. But the scale tips to dislike because of the puzzles. Sure they are fun and interesting; but, one after another just gets old. Its like its trying to be a classic rpg and a portal style puzzle symmetry. Trying to be both a rpg/puzzle leaves it a bit waterdowned. Jack of all trades master of none...
But there perhaps is a new genre? The p-rpg? Interesting...
But the fact that players can create there own dungeons is the biggest redeeming quality of this game. That alone is worth its value to buy this game.
I am a first generation gamer, And if you want to know the games that started this genre; then check out akalabeth, and Dungeons of Daggorath. Dungeons of Daggorath is timeless and still playable; even by todays demanding standards of graphical animations.

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Dr.Disaster Jul 28, 2013 @ 3:04am 
Originally posted by silmwarensurion:
I am a first generation gamer, And if you want to know the games that started this genre; then check out akalabeth, and Dungeons of Daggorath. Dungeons of Daggorath is timeless and still playable; even by todays demanding standards of graphical animations.
1st gen gamer here too. Granted both games mentioned are among the first 3D dungeon games but they are hardly timeless. Back in the early 80's they were simply Rogue with a different point of view for early PC's. Nice when they hit the shelf but superseded very fast by Ultima, Wizardry, Bard's Tale and others.
Cairn.L Jul 28, 2013 @ 12:48pm 
Granpa hard to please ー( ̄~ ̄)ξ
Nah, I was joking (*≧▽≦)ノシ))
CyberDown Jul 28, 2013 @ 9:14pm 
I was never a fan of puzzles, to be honest. I like this game for what it is...the only thing that gets me is combat, i dislike the FPS style juking that needs to be done. I feel it detracts from what could be some really good old school combat...mixed in with old school dungeon crawling and puzzle solving.

For its price its a pretty solid game though. Costs less than a movie ticket and will get you double or triple the entertainment, even if you dont get vary far in game then give up.


Personally i found myself rerolling into a super unfun but effective combat party, but even then i get stuck (around 4th level i think) and its combat that gets me stuck always (you can always google the puzzle solutions as some are kinda rough with no other means than trial and error to solve, which i dislike kinda)
Walker Jul 28, 2013 @ 10:02pm 
This is a copy of the old FTL games, Dungeon Master and Chaos Strikes Back. They had the exact same types of puzzles back in the late 80s when they came out for the Amiga/Atari ST/PC. The interface and spell casting system was virtually identical.

Well over a decade before Portal was created
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silmwarensurion Jul 29, 2013 @ 12:59am 
Ya, I Do think that this game is worth buying. Now-a-days, Most fps-rpg games are not much beyond the typical hack and slash. Sure its exciting to take on 20-30 mobs at the same time; But, it all just seems the same. The games of the past actually made you think to win. Most of us had inside jokes, That we all knew; that there was some dev/game creater laughing his off somewhere, because of some crazy scenario you experienced in a game. Like some monster that jumps outta nowhere, or some game-stopping scenario, in which you overlooked some key or quest item. Like a key inside a bottle.
Rogue was actually an enhanced version, of the earliest games. Akalabeth is unofficially considered to be Ultima 0.
My first computer was a trs-80 with 16k of ram, and a tape recorder, called a tape drive. The fact that you could make a game with 16k of ram, is almost unbelievable
Dorok Aug 3, 2013 @ 6:04pm 
Originally posted by silmwarensurion:
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But there perhaps is a new genre? The p-rpg? Interesting...
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I am a first generation gamer,
Lol people here are very kind, but the truth is either you lie because you CANNOT not know Dungeon Master if you was really a first generation gamer, either you are so old that Alzheimer already started grab you.
[©1998] Felon Aug 3, 2013 @ 8:25pm 
Dungeon Master isn't a first gen game and it was only available on 16-bit systems. A lot of 8-bit gamers missed out on this one.

Sorry to ruin your insult for you.
Ricardo Aug 5, 2013 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by Dorok:
Originally posted by silmwarensurion:
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But there perhaps is a new genre? The p-rpg? Interesting...
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I am a first generation gamer,
Lol people here are very kind, but the truth is either you lie because you CANNOT not know Dungeon Master if you was really a first generation gamer, either you are so old that Alzheimer already started grab you.

Hahaha, just what I thought, there is nothing new in Legend of Grimrock. This "old timer" looks a bit lost in my opinion...
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Dorok Aug 7, 2013 @ 5:20am 
Originally posted by Felon:
Dungeon Master isn't a first gen game and it was only available on 16-bit systems. A lot of 8-bit gamers missed out on this one.

Sorry to ruin your insult for you.
And I'm sorry for your inability to identify a clear bragger lier who is OP. You can't be a game fan 8-bit and not have make the switch to 16-bit. And it's ridiculous to be that ignorant to not know:
- 1st that there's been Dungeon Master
- 2nd that Legend of Grimrock is a direct homage no way hidden by the Dev.
Bluddy63 Aug 7, 2013 @ 6:27pm 
I thought this game was very excellent. It paid homage to all the games that came before it in this genre, while still being fresh and up to date. I also thought that the puzzles were a great addition, as these dungeon crawls tend to be really boring without some kind of puzzle action or some kind of story and plot. I thought both were covered decently in this game. Sure, games like the Eye of the Beholder series were a lot more story heavy than this one, but it can only get better from here with the community projects and the I believe announced Legend of Grimrock 2. I guess you can't please everybody, but this post just irritated me. From the title of the topic being uninspired and far more "Lame" than this game by leaps and bounds, but also an OP that is name dropping all the oldest and most honored games in this genre to be a internet hipster. If anyone thinks that Akalabeth is better than this game in some strange way, maybe because of rose tinted nostalgia glasses, is completely insane and out of touch with reality.
silmwarensurion Aug 8, 2013 @ 1:44am 
Very interesting comments from all. Considering the age of my initial post; I am somewhat suprised that anyone is still posting here. My statement of being a first gen gamer, was not a lie, nor was it meant to be boastful. But, it is a title i enjoy. The games, from a graphical standpoint were obviously limited by the tech available at the time. Being a first gen gamer actually fired up my imagination. You created pictures in your mind about how the game world looked. Just because i didnt mention a certain game, doesnt mean anything at all. I was just venting about how puzzle heavy this game is. I obviously no longer have the finger dexterity; as i did when i was 12. I also was giving the root foundation of how the first games created; led to what we see today. Back then we knew; that eventually games would be elaborate 3d worlds of stunning graphical artwork. We also new that the games would be interactive. The elder scrolls series, is almost a perfect representation of this. Its really to bad that some of the posters, nevr had the experience of being a first gen gamer. But, myself, and fellow first gen games, is actually something we cherish.
So, lastly here is a list of the first games ive played.

Telengaard(the original version). the original versions used ascii characters(a,b,c...)
akalabeth
ultima 1
dungeons of daggorath
madness and the minotaur(text)
pyramind 2000(text)
raaka-tu(text
bedlam(text)
and quite a few more, but forgot game titles
Walker Aug 9, 2013 @ 2:01pm 
I started out playing text adventure games, mostly the high quality Infocom titles, so the puzzles in Dungeon Master and Legend of Grimrock are rather simplistic and easy in comparison.
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I know that this is OT: but I remember I played a text adventure that started in a castle during a thunderstorm. I also know that these are little informations, but does anyone know what wast the title of the game?
David The Storyteller Aug 12, 2013 @ 1:16pm 
Hey, don't be a ♥♥♥♥.
UncleRage Sep 2, 2013 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by ☂ λuke:
I know that this is OT: but I remember I played a text adventure that started in a castle during a thunderstorm. I also know that these are little informations, but does anyone know what wast the title of the game?

Hmmm. The Count from Adventure International (Scott Adams)? Could also be any number of the old Eamon adventures... On the graphics side, it also sounds like Uninvited.

Do you remember which platform you played it on?
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