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X-Stat1c Nov 14, 2012 @ 4:39pm
How do you Non-Lethal Granny Rags [SPOILER]?
So I'm replaying dishonored, this time on Very Hard, trying for Ghost, Shadow & Clean Hands. However, I feel like the SlackJaw/ Granny confrontation will mess up my hope of getting Clean Hands. Is there a way to Non-Lethal Granny in this confrontation?
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Cephiyo Nov 14, 2012 @ 5:20pm 
Yes, you have to destroy the medallion without being seen. Then, she'll come to you and all you need to do is to take her from behind and choke her.
A7_Zealot Nov 14, 2012 @ 10:54pm 
I just did a Clean Hands play through and for some reason, I still haven't figured it out, I didn't even need to confront Granny Rags in the later stages of the game. The grotto that she has Slackjaw chained up in was closed off and the door that is usually locked for which she has the key, was already unlocked and Weepers in the sewer weren't Weepers but ordinary uninfected citizens. Despite this I got Ghost, Shadow, Specter, Faceless and Clean Hands (among other) achievements.
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Lime.Frickin.Green Nov 15, 2012 @ 11:24pm 
If you play through without doing the all of the sidequests for granny and slackjaw there wont be a confrontation in the sewer.
Originally posted by Lime.Frickin.Green:
If you play through without doing the all of the sidequests for granny and slackjaw there wont be a confrontation in the sewer.
the point is they are doing a non-lethal run. so they have to do slackjaw
a penguin Jul 12 @ 9:47pm 
Originally posted by Wolfer the Wolf:
Originally posted by Lime.Frickin.Green:
If you play through without doing the all of the sidequests for granny and slackjaw there wont be a confrontation in the sewer.
the point is they are doing a non-lethal run. so they have to do slackjaw
nah, you never have to talk to either of them unless you want their presents

Originally posted by A7_Zealot:
I just did a Clean Hands play through and for some reason, I still haven't figured it out, I didn't even need to confront Granny Rags in the later stages of the game. The grotto that she has Slackjaw chained up in was closed off and the door that is usually locked for which she has the key, was already unlocked and Weepers in the sewer weren't Weepers but ordinary uninfected citizens. Despite this I got Ghost, Shadow, Specter, Faceless and Clean Hands (among other) achievements.
^and this is why it's really best not to talk to them when you're just going for achievements. If you don't finish their questlines, the final confrontation never occurs, because you never play a role in exacerbating their conflict.

The uninfected citizens thing is solely dependent on chaos level I think?
Capn_Tucker Jul 13 @ 12:57pm 
Originally posted by a penguin:
Originally posted by Wolfer the Wolf:
the point is they are doing a non-lethal run. so they have to do slackjaw
nah, you never have to talk to either of them unless you want their presents

Originally posted by A7_Zealot:
I just did a Clean Hands play through and for some reason, I still haven't figured it out, I didn't even need to confront Granny Rags in the later stages of the game. The grotto that she has Slackjaw chained up in was closed off and the door that is usually locked for which she has the key, was already unlocked and Weepers in the sewer weren't Weepers but ordinary uninfected citizens. Despite this I got Ghost, Shadow, Specter, Faceless and Clean Hands (among other) achievements.
^and this is why it's really best not to talk to them when you're just going for achievements. If you don't finish their questlines, the final confrontation never occurs, because you never play a role in exacerbating their conflict.

The uninfected citizens thing is solely dependent on chaos level I think?

The number of weepers is dependent on your chaos level, and also whether you did Grannie Rag's quest to infect the elixir still. Even with a low chaos level, if you infect the still there will be a sh.it ton of weepers in later levels..
ChevyNoel Jul 13 @ 2:04pm 
If you do all of those side quests, you can still get the key from Granny when she has SlackJaw chained up, without causing problems for those achievements.

IIRC, what you need to do is pickpocket the key from Granny. When you do this she starts to go hostile and do her teleporting thing, so as soon as you get the key, you need to blink to the back of the room where you can use the key and leave before she has a chance to actually see you.
elizacron Jul 13 @ 3:40pm 
I just played this part today. I came in, looted, took the cameo, went down and talked to Granny and accepted her offer to help. Then I went back upstairs, burned the cameo and blinked away. Once I was able to approach her with stealth, I shot her with a sleep dart. Then I unlocked Slackjaw, opened the door, took the rune and left. It did NOT count as a kill and I still got Ghost as well :) And I got the Slackjaw acheivement to boot.
Scaredog20 Jul 13 @ 6:16pm 
just shoot her with a traq for non leathal. But if you want ghost you should just never talk to her and she wont be in the sewers at the end of the game. If you messed up and gave her the time of day then freeze time steal key and run away. If you want to save slackjaw then drick water with the mana restore with water ruin, then steal the item on her bed and place it in the furnace, then tranq her, youll need to freeze time several times.
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unknown circumstances (as far as i no ghost run) you won't have to deal with granny at all. it will be closed off and the door will be unlocked. no thug either
ChevyNoel Jul 13 @ 10:59pm 
Originally posted by Wolfer the Wolf:
unknown circumstances (as far as i no ghost run) you won't have to deal with granny at all. it will be closed off and the door will be unlocked. no thug either

That happens when you don't do their side quests in previous missions.
Wolf, the wolfest of them all Jul 14 @ 10:17am 
...i was doing a ghost run.... so i had to do slackjaw's
ChevyNoel Jul 14 @ 2:25pm 
Originally posted by Wolfer the Wolf:
...i was doing a ghost run.... so i had to do slackjaw's

Doing only part of what is required for the scene to occur does not guarantee that the scene will occur.
Last edited by ChevyNoel; Jul 14 @ 2:26pm
what?
look i didn't have to kill either. it didnt give me the choice. the door was unlocked. ghost run complete
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