Invisible.....fair?

[emanramen]

So Leon and Ksenia.....do you guys think it's fun to play against them? Is there any decent counter to invisible enemies? I feel like every other ability in the game has it's pros and cons, but invis just seems dumb and unfun.

I know this is salty. But it really makes me want to play the game less. I don't know, what do you guys think? Just current salt or is there some good counter to it I'm not understanding? I guess to stay with your team? But even then, you can't always do that. Ugh....oh well....

[Cage]

never walk alone

[Arti_Sel]

Invis enemies can pick up coins and bodyblock, they are still the same runspeed as before most of the time so if you see them go invi you should be able to roughly predict were they can be. Become paranoid and use your aa to confirm your paranoia. Pick up upgrades that make your attacks linger longer, this makes it uncomfortable for invi nauts to move around. Always be ready for a fight. If you move in team most of the advantages of invi disappears as well.

[Hextravert]

Refrain from running around while low on health. Return and heal more frequently.

But I guess that really makes you so-called want to play the game less, too.

Ugh . . . oh . . . well . . .

Opprinnelig skrevet av emanramen:

So Leon and Ksenia.....do you guys think it's fun to play against them? Is there any decent counter to invisible enemies? I feel like every other ability in the game has it's pros and cons, but invis just seems dumb and unfun.

I know this is salty. But it really makes me want to play the game less. I don't know, what do you guys think? Just current salt or is there some good counter to it I'm not understanding? I guess to stay with your team? But even then, you can't always do that. Ugh....oh well....

[emanramen]

Hmmm, good point.

[Vectorman]

Skree can find and slow cloakers with his AA and Gnaw (or other characters with DOT effects) are both good at tracking them once they burn.

I was very salty for a long time against Leon and how strong he was, especially as a cloaker, but now there are much worse threats than invisibility.

[Dios Sol]

Yes, it is. Just don't stay on the battle field with low hp, well, never stay with low hp. I think that Skree AA is worst than invis.

[Mark]

you can also always just try to play those characters for a couple of rounds. if you keep winning without problem, that might mean they're actually op. if you don't, you'll realize quickly what works against them and what doesn't.

[emanramen]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Mark:

you can also always just try to play those characters for a couple of rounds. if you keep winning without problem, that might mean they're actually op. if you don't, you'll realize quickly what works against them and what doesn't.

That's actually a pretty good idea. Thanks for that one.

[emanramen]

lol you're a human

[Zug Zug]

Leon is for noob mouthbreathers, so they can feel like they don't totally suck at everything ever.

[Yeti]

In higher tier play Leon is somewhat difficult to play. Experienced players recognize when they are vulnerable to an invis attack and use it to punish. Bait them. Make them think you are alone. More importantly, save your cc for when he appears. Have a slow upgrade somewhere? Get it! He has some of the lowest health.

[Mdaddy924]

invisiblity is a noob crusher, all it does is force players to develop intermediate level habits that noobs are likly to not consider. The counter to invisiblity is mostly CC/DoT as they all reveal invisible but that means picking utility upgrades over damage/DPS, Checking the minimap regularly will allow you to see where they are when they are visible and thus you are safe, hitting tab and checking upgrades is also helpful for leon because if he got backstab all you have to do is face him and most times you can out dps him, and if your not sure where they are just hang out by your turrent or stick in a tight death ball leon/ksania can do next to nothing when the enemy clusters.

now if you are talking the invisibility orb on agullion then yes that ♥♥♥♥ is broken but you need to time it out so you or your teammates are always getting it the second it spawns.

[Bangeroni]

Skree. His attack is automatic and also hits them when they're invisible

[Ithurtswhen_ipee]

it seems hard i know but really invisible players if theyre not about to assinate someone, aka if theres no opportunity for them, they are dangerously close to being chunked.

on the leon map with the inviisble orb you cna hear when soemone picks it up, try to be near the center of the stage every so often to steal it or at least hear it get taken.

BIGGEST TAKEAWAY, invislbe players cant attack or defend or push, they are busy jsut running around and cant defend themselves without breaking the cloak.

[_____42_____]

Many players dont know this, but there are indicators for people entering or leaving some areas in the map, that work the same with invisible Nauts. Look at the bottom center on Ribbit for leaves at the invisibility area for example