Arcanis [V-M] Dec 19, 2012 @ 4:39pm
Post-Transmission Moon Grotto 7" Discoveries: Spoilers
Well, I'm officially stumped. Here is what I have so far...

I ordered the Moon Grotto 7" vinyl to "keep on digging" as instructed by the transmission phone number.

The vinyl is sleeved inside 1 of 2 puzzles One is the grid on the iPhone here: http://superbrothers.ca/moongrotto.html

There are two points at which the grids are different: spot 77, and spot 92. When these numbers are input into the phone at the website they give "secret grooves??" and "itself = 1977"

The aforementioned secret grooves when played on the turntable say "itself times itself, three times" and "itself minus a billion + 1." Entering the resulting computations into the phone gives a link to a video, http://vimeo.com/46508916 and a corresponding password, "voyager". The video has a quote from Carl Sagan.

I have no real ideas on what the video means. The other puzzle is the maze on the vinyl itself also shown on the moon grotto page. I also have no real idea how to approach that either.

I have toyed around with audacity playing the moon grotto song backwards and heard a "can you hear the moon in mono." By changing the audio to mono i heard "/burnapalefire" which led me to discover this: http://www.superbrothers.ca/burnapalefire.html. It just plays the music from the #moar achievement. It is transcribed as follows:

Ladies and Gentlemen, we've heard your cries, and we apologize for the delay.

What kind of adventure is this?

Your subconscious knows the truth.

You are now among The Initiated.

Day and Night are in balance.

Long Live The New Flesh.

I wonder if there are woods out there?

...If those woods need woodsmen...

...If those woods need chopping...

Itself times itself three times.

A billion

A billion

A billion

See You in Heaven, High Five.

We will meet again at the appointed time.

I thought I heard something in the record.

I'll forgo typing all of the See You In Heaven, High Fives.

I wonder if there are woods out there...?

...and if those woods need woodsmen...

...and if those woods need chopping...

A bunch of Now We Are Cosmic Friends Forever

I have no idea where to go from here. The name of the secret video being ?" and the mirror image of the space ship at the 11 second mark led me to believe perhaps the maze needs to be inverted as if in a mirror, but I have no idea how to apply that information.
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jackal Dec 20, 2012 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by Silkie:
I have no real ideas on what the video means. The other puzzle is the maze on the vinyl itself also shown on the moon grotto page. I also have no real idea how to approach that either.

Running your mouse over the vinyl record image at the southwest corner highlights a box. When I use Chrome's "Inspect Element" option I get this url for that area/image: http://superbrothers.ca/moongrotto_hintblank.png. Notice that it references a "hint". I tried flipping just this area in photoshop (as referenced by your clue later down in your post) and I can't figure it out either but I'm convinced that it is a puzzle and that there is a solution!
Arcanis [V-M] Dec 20, 2012 @ 2:45pm 
that box indicates where the secret grooves are on the record. If you type the numbers 77 or 92 on the phone it shows up.
kronos Mar 8, 2013 @ 6:20pm 
A lot of the information you have said above I could have never figured out BUT... I did experience something weird this morning. I was listening to the 1st track of the Album Moon Grotto 7 through my earphones on my iPod, but my earphones were breaking so I just took my earphones out of the headphone plug-in and played the song. Now here's the weird part...

THE SONG IS DIFFERENT!

It is similar to the 3rd track in the download you get when you buy the album/vinyl. I couldn't really understand what the voice was saying, but I hope this helps as a lead with what you already have so far.

Good luck.
Last edited by kronos; Mar 8, 2013 @ 6:51pm
kronos Mar 8, 2013 @ 6:50pm 
Also at the beginning of the video http://vimeo.com/46508916 there are two words. 'the' and another word that has I think a 'B' (but it could be a j) then an 'ul' then I think a 'w' and then either a 'g', 'r', or 'i' then an 'e'. I got Bulwie. Nothing I searched on Google came up with any words I found. I hope you didn't see the words so I hope this helps :D
Rainbow_Man Mar 13, 2013 @ 6:29am 
Okay, so I may be slightly late with this, but I just recently completed the game. I'm amazed at how you were able to discover all of that. I have two comments of my own. Calling the transmission number I heard... ALL IS WELL THAT ENDS WELL. As well as return soon or something and a bit of music. As well as near the end, audio of some sort, about the universe. I have no idea what it means. And I am now sure the message doesn't change, regardless if the dark moon reigns. (Yesterday when I called, it was a dark moon and the message is the same as today) Secondly, what the heck. I input 77 in the phone right? What does the question mark mean?!?!? You can dag it but to where? Why does it show up? Also, the maze. Look at it. The dark moon. It's not there. I mean...Watch the trailer. There in the place of the dark moon is a outline of a circle. The maze solution has to do with the moons on it. Not just the maze. I'm sure of it. Anyway that's all I have discovered. Oh, wait one last thing the video. At the very start it says "The future". What could that mean?
Rainbow_Man Mar 13, 2013 @ 7:12am 
There is one last thing I just found. Clicking the Scythian at http://superbrothers.ca/moongrotto.html a window appears. And it says something incredible. Unfortunately, the subscription is expired. I wish I knew what it said...
Rainbow_Man Mar 14, 2013 @ 7:45am 
I never knew you could rock out with Jim by the pale fire...
Arcanis [V-M] Mar 17, 2013 @ 11:25am 
@Rainbow_Man : It was a speech to text converter that attempted to convert the voice mails left on the transmission number. Mostly garbled the messages with only a few words transcribed correctly.
joeybuddy96 Jun 8, 2013 @ 8:02pm 
The numbers on the phone are different now, which makes me wonder if they change based on the phases of the moon. On superbrothers.ca/moongrotto, the numbers, from left to right, top row to bottom row, are 3, 4, 51, 79. They light up in a different order though: 4, 3, 51, 79. The dots on the grid are as follows, left to right, top to bottom, first box in the upper leftcorner being 1: 10, 12, 15, 43, 46, 47, 50, 52, 64, 68, 89, 91. 43 is highlighted, and is the one that activates the sequence of four numbers mentioned earlier in this post.
Starrise Jul 6, 2013 @ 11:04am 
The other puzzle is the maze on the vinyl itself also shown on the moon grotto page. I also have no real idea how to approach that either.

Get a turntable, move the LP around by hand following the maze. Record as you do so. What does it sound like? I dunno, that's my best guess for that puzzle...
Levend1s Jan 1 @ 10:08pm 
This reminds me so much of a Valve ARG. I just wish this one could be solved.
Beatchef Jan 8 @ 9:09am 
Seems they've taken everything down because the video is private and the website addresses don't work, they just 404.
jackal Jan 8 @ 4:07pm 
Not cool, maybe they will have another ARG through another game they will release in the future that will hopefully tie up the loose ends?
Rainbow_Man Jan 8 @ 5:10pm 
No the video just requires the password voyager to view, it's still up.
Cheesestick Jun 21 @ 11:54am 
You have too much time on your hands. :P
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