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SplitPea Aug 21 @ 5:25am
This game...
Okay I just bought this with a 75% voucher. Really cheap so I'm cheerin. I have no idea what to do though. Do I just explore?
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MaC122 Aug 23 @ 7:34am 
yup, its more of a visual experience with a story. beautiful graphics
Puddle Sep 4 @ 2:50am 
Just tape the w key down for a bit and take a nap for 40 minutes.
illgib Sep 4 @ 2:08pm 
Originally posted by Puddle:
Just tape the w key down for a bit and take a nap for 40 minutes.
And you'll end in the lighthouse's bathroom.
People's like you would refuse the smartest girl in the world because she have small ♥♥♥♥.
*Point to the moon and the fool will look at your fingertip*
Puddle Sep 4 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by illgib:
Originally posted by Puddle:
Just tape the w key down for a bit and take a nap for 40 minutes.
And you'll end in the lighthouse's bathroom.
People's like you would refuse the smartest girl in the world because she have small ♥♥♥♥.
*Point to the moon and the fool will look at your fingertip*

conjecture and baseless attacks on my character because I dont like a video game you do?

How about you wipe the foam from your mouth and take a chill pill?
illgib Sep 4 @ 7:20pm 
I've never read a single objective, and not subjective, opinion of this game from you, showing how simply isn't the kind of game you're looking for, making you looking like a stupid who can't understand the difference betwen "I don't like it" and "It's bad", the first one it's an opinion, the second one just a rant considering that there isn't such "bad games" but only games that me or you can or can't like despite their own quality. I find most sport games boring, so are all of them bad and boring for real?
That's the whole point in all the "this game is crap" posts, those aren't opinons, period. At least try to compute some real thoughts on why it didn't catch you and what did you expected from it instead of "You simply keep press W and nothing more" because you've clearly missed completely the goal of this game, that isn't "press W to move and do something like in a generic fps or whatever".
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Puddle Sep 5 @ 2:27am 
Originally posted by illgib:
I've never read a single objective, and not subjective, opinion of this game from you, showing how simply isn't the kind of game you're looking for, making you looking like a stupid who can't understand the difference betwen "I don't like it" and "It's bad", the first one it's an opinion, the second one just a rant considering that there isn't such "bad games" but only games that me or you can or can't like despite their own quality. I find most sport games boring, so are all of them bad and boring for real?
That's the whole point in all the "this game is crap" posts, those aren't opinons, period. At least try to compute some real thoughts on why it didn't catch you and what did you expected from it instead of "You simply keep press W and nothing more" because you've clearly missed completely the goal of this game, that isn't "press W to move and do something like in a generic fps or whatever".

Perhaps you dont understand what the word opinion means? Opinions are all subjective. Thats why they are opinions. You wont hear an objective opinion about any game from anybody.

So who looks like 'a stupid' again?

I never said the game was bad or not. You implied meaning where there was none. Regardless if you think the game is good or not there is no objection that there is little interaction built into the game. Thats the meaning my post was designed for and not any kind of measure of its quality.

I do think this game is ♥♥♥♥♥ though. If you must understand why that is, then I will explain so. I seek a certain kind of engament from the games I play. That being, gameplay. I do appreciate a game with a great story or characters, niether of which this game had, but it is second to gameplay. I read plunty of books for their stories and they are, for the most part, better at telling stories than games curently are with few exceptions. Video games have yet to monopolize on the fact that they are different from other media when it comes to how to tell stories. Walking through a bland countryside while some psudeo-intellectual spewing long winded sililoquy recounting his boring and tripe story, does not make for entertainment. It does make for a sore finger and 40 minutes of time better spend watching paint dry.

Had this story been altered slightly and reproduced in a short story or film form, I believe I would have liked it a lot more. But because they chose the medium of video game to tell a story, it falls flat.

In the future perhaps you wont be so combative and try to place meaning where none was intended.
SplitPea Sep 5 @ 6:34pm 
Everyone is entitled to an opinion here. This game is not my cup of tea but im sure others love it. No need to make it more complicated then that.
illgib Sep 7 @ 4:27pm 
Originally posted by Puddle:
Originally posted by illgib:
I've never read a single objective, and not subjective, opinion of this game from you, showing how simply isn't the kind of game you're looking for, making you looking like a stupid who can't understand the difference betwen "I don't like it" and "It's bad", the first one it's an opinion, the second one just a rant considering that there isn't such "bad games" but only games that me or you can or can't like despite their own quality. I find most sport games boring, so are all of them bad and boring for real?
That's the whole point in all the "this game is crap" posts, those aren't opinons, period. At least try to compute some real thoughts on why it didn't catch you and what did you expected from it instead of "You simply keep press W and nothing more" because you've clearly missed completely the goal of this game, that isn't "press W to move and do something like in a generic fps or whatever".

*snip*
You've just stated what i've alredy said, it's not what you were looking for, nut you still call it "♥♥♥♥", you can't call it bad or ♥♥♥♥ only because it didn't meet your expectations. You can say "i didn't like it" and that's an opinion, saying "this game is ♥♥♥♥" is in no way an opinion, sorry.
Puddle Sep 8 @ 5:28am 
Originally posted by illgib:
Originally posted by Puddle:

*snip*
You've just stated what i've alredy said, it's not what you were looking for, nut you still call it "♥♥♥♥", you can't call it bad or ♥♥♥♥ only because it didn't meet your expectations. You can say "i didn't like it" and that's an opinion, saying "this game is ♥♥♥♥" is in no way an opinion, sorry.

The game is ♥♥♥♥ is still an opinion. Im not sure why you think its not.
Gus the Crocodile Sep 8 @ 8:05am 
Yeah, as much as I think the "tape the W key down" bit up the top was the standard pointlessly inflammatory oversimplification this board can do without, I'm with Puddle on this one. People saying the game is bad is exactly the same kind of statement as if they said it's great. It's their opinion. Nobody has to agree with it.

You can insist everyone say "I like this" and "I don't like this" instead, but what you end up doing is essentially defining words like "good", "bad", "great", "terrible" out of existence entirely...and I don't really see the point in doing that? They're perfectly good (uh oh, there I go) words to use when expressing an opinion; why not let people use them?
illgib Sep 8 @ 8:33am 
Because an opinion state a personal position on a matter, like saying "I don't like it" or "I think this game is bad", saying "This game is bad" it's not an opinion but a fact, and nobody can talk for everyone saying "It's good" or "It's ♥♥♥♥" because there isn't a universal interconnected thoughts shared between every human being, there falls the "opinion".
Everyone's entitled to like or hate it, but you can't simply say "It's dog ♥♥♥♥ at most but it's my opinion" because it's not. Semantic, nobody use it no more.
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Puddle Sep 8 @ 8:39am 
Originally posted by illgib:
Because an opinion state a personal position on a matter, like saying "I don't like it" or "I think this game is bad", saying "This game is bad" it's not an opinion but a fact, and nobody can talk for everyone saying "It's good" or "It's ♥♥♥♥" because there isn't a universal interconnected thoughts shared between every human being, there falls the "opinion".
Everyone's entitled to like or hate it, but you can't simply say "It's dog ♥♥♥♥ at most but it's my opinion" because it's not. Semantic, nobody use it no more.

So if I say you are stupid that makes it a fact?

Good to know.
Gus the Crocodile Sep 8 @ 8:45am 
Originally posted by illgib:
Because an opinion state a personal position on a matter, like saying "I don't like it" or "I think this game is bad", saying "This game is bad" it's not an opinion but a fact
Try reading it differently, giving people the benefit of the doubt a little more rather than assuming they're saying the worst interpretation you can come up with.

Because as I see it, "I think this game is bad" and "This game is bad" are the exact same statement, it's just that in the latter they're doing you an intellectual courtesy (and making communication more efficient at the same time) by assuming you don't need everything prefixed with "I think" to realise that when people speak for themselves they are inherently making opinionated statements. Making everyone tack "I think" on the front of everything they say really is a huge waste of everyone's time, when we can just...not do it, and use context to make it implicit where necessary.

The irony is that in telling people that words just flat-out can't be used this way, you're committing much the same sin of illusory authority that you're railing against. You don't own language, and I can tell you there are huge amounts of people out there who are perfectly comfortable with people being allowed to say that something is good. If you're going to go around and tell them all they can't do that, well, best of luck, because grammar and semantics are defined by usage, so if they all think it's fine, then it actually is fine for them.
Arale//Zero Sep 13 @ 6:55pm 
oh my god this thread wasnt even about opinions

who the hell consistently goes to the dear esther forums to answer non-opinion-related questions to kill the thread into being about how they dont like a video game because it wasnt the one they wanted
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