Pykachu Sep 16, 2012 @ 9:50am
Fabricate Claims on Rome?
I play as Italy and I have the whole island covered but I've been trying to fabricate a claim on rome for, like, 3 generations of kings now. Is this even possible?!
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Italia Sep 16, 2012 @ 11:17am 
i think it is possible so you will have to wait more,or you could just attack rome and the pope like i did. Also nothing bad happend to me afterward beaucse i made peace with them but i did lose relations.
xenon11 Sep 16, 2012 @ 11:29am 
Just proclaim your own anti-pope and then you'll be able to press his claim on Rome.
The Cosmic Kid Sep 17, 2012 @ 12:55am 
You can hover your mouse over your chancellor's figure on the map to check his chance of fabricating a claim. When you put him on Rome, he doesn't have any.
Centurion Sep 17, 2012 @ 4:07am 
It was possible before Sword of Islam but I don't think it is now. The only way to get Rome besides modding is to form Kingdom of Italy so you can have the casus belli via de jure system to invade and annex it. However even this is on a slight bit of a time limit since you need to do it before the Papacy changes the de jure status from Italy to the Papacy.
Centurion Sep 17, 2012 @ 4:21am 
Originally posted by xenon11:
Just proclaim your own anti-pope and then you'll be able to press his claim on Rome.

This is also possible.

On an additional note, you can't make Rome as your capital because the core city is a bishopric and kings can't make bishoprics their capital. I was quite disappointed because I wanted to recreate the Roman Empire but wasn't able to make Rome the capital of the resurrected empire. :P I suppose I could change it via modding but that's something I'm saving for later. ;)
bschneider Sep 17, 2012 @ 5:05pm 
Originally posted by Presian:
On an additional note, you can't make Rome as your capital because the core city is a bishopric and kings can't make bishoprics their capital.

Is there a barony in Rome? If yes, then take the barony for you, afterwards give away the bishopric. The barony will now be the primary holding of this province, at least it should theoretically work.
Castile Sep 17, 2012 @ 7:20pm 
Originally posted by bschneider:
Originally posted by Presian:
On an additional note, you can't make Rome as your capital because the core city is a bishopric and kings can't make bishoprics their capital.

Is there a barony in Rome? If yes, then take the barony for you, afterwards give away the bishopric. The barony will now be the primary holding of this province, at least it should theoretically work.

Acctualy i think you first need to install a baron to be count, this switches the barony to be the capital, then you make sure you inherit the title... so kill whole familes
The Cosmic Kid Sep 18, 2012 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by Accrsd:
Acctualy i think you first need to install a baron to be count, this switches the barony to be the capital, then you make sure you inherit the title... so kill whole familes
Or just revoke the title.
Manbearpig Sep 19, 2012 @ 1:54pm 
You can also get a claim on the Papacy by forming the Kingdom of Italy.
Tomaster Sep 20, 2012 @ 6:15pm 
Originally posted by Manbearpig:
You can also get a claim on the Papacy by forming the Kingdom of Italy.
The Papacy is a King level title, separate from both Italy and Sicily.

I managed to claim Orvieto because the Pope made him a vassal, but can't get the other two in the Papacy. It would help if someone could figure out how to get the Pope's land.
¡Melis! Sep 21, 2012 @ 1:02am 
Papacy is a titular title so has no lands by right, it's actually de jure (legally) part of Italy - but if the Papacy hold it for 100 years it becomes de jure theirs. Trick is, form the kingdom of Italy before that happens and then press the de jure claim on Rome.
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