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gshakespeare 2013年2月20日 10時20分
opinions wanted
hey, im big fan of the total war games and say this on sale, so am wondering how they compare and is CK2 worth buying? ta for your input

edit: on a side note, is the dlc worth getting?
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Logain Marefey 2013年2月20日 12時15分 
Hello, I too love the Total War games, and I absolutely love CK2 as well. CK2 focuses less on the military aspects and more on the political and personal aspects; throughout the game, your essentially creating elaborate and devious plots. I would personally recommend it, though I have to say it can have an intimidating learing curve. Hope I helped.
Nef 2013年2月20日 12時49分 
I used to be a big fan of Total War too, until I got EU3 (and a few months later, CK2 - I was a latecomer to EU!), now I can't imagine going back. The military aspect is obviously much reduced in CK compared to TW, but everything else is much more detailed and engaging! It's worth noting that while it may seem superficially similar to TW's campaign map, it's actually quite different. For one thing, it's all (pausable) real time - no turn-based shenanigans here! However it's not for everyone - have a look at some lets plays on YouTube or try the demo first if you're unsure :)

For the record, I just leapt right in and bought it before trying anything out, and I'm so glad I did!
gshakespeare 2013年2月20日 12時53分 
yeh i wish TW had more political aspects to it, jump in it is me thinks
umop 2013年2月20日 13時17分 
I found these CK2 video tutorials really useful to show the basics to get up and running:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJhoyHE26lg&list=PLDF61F4A4275A64D4
I think it was eposide 4 or 5 that showed the basic overview of military gameplay
Hope this helps.
MrDeeds34 2013年2月20日 14時46分 
Yes, CK2 is deffinetly worth buying. As the people before me said it is much more engaging politicly, economicly, and uuummmm, shall we say intruge wise. But the battle system is a little simpler than TW games. The major DLCs are worth it because there are features like retinues that you can't use if you don't have them. Although i hardly ever find myself using the ruler maker DLC thing.
BraveLunatic 2013年2月20日 16時51分 
The battles may be "simple" but beware of the opposing army composition and your army leader. You might end up wondering how your larger army ends up in the ditch. In fact, this often happens when you're fighting against the Mongols. It's not enough to have a bigger army, it has to be the right kind of troops lead by a high Martial leader.
BMN 2013年2月20日 17時45分 
buy it before the sale ends! it's worth it! plus dlc are super cheap so might as well get those too
Nef 2013年2月20日 17時55分 
BraveLunatic の投稿を引用:
The battles may be "simple" but beware of the opposing army composition and your army leader. You might end up wondering how your larger army ends up in the ditch. In fact, this often happens when you're fighting against the Mongols. It's not enough to have a bigger army, it has to be the right kind of troops lead by a high Martial leader.

This is true, but I really meant that there is less focus on the battles as you do not directly control them like you can in Total War. You just set things up as best you can within the limits of the game and let them get to it! I guess in a way this is more realistic.
Arganth 2013年2月21日 3時58分 
If you play TW and ending up auto resolving all battles because it starts
to get boring (all this ♥♥♥♥ing small battles ......) then this game is for you :D
gshakespeare 2013年2月21日 5時30分 
you got me, just bought the it and the dlc, download faster!!! lol
Tom1561 2013年2月21日 6時33分 
And feel free to ask for help :)
Wolfen 2013年2月21日 8時53分 
In my opionion everything of CK2 is worth getting but the medieval portraits.They look like a drunken 6 year old child have painted them.
Rjbanks 2013年2月21日 18時00分 
I would highly reccomend getting this game it has provided me with hours of fun!
MrDeeds34 2013年2月21日 18時59分 
gl & hf gshakespeare
prince_of_arfon 2013年4月2日 22時54分 
I love both series as well. In fact, I find it's really satisfying to alternate playing them. CK2 is the more satisfying game overall, but it's very slowly paced and sometimes I just get frustrated when I feel that my strong army with 3 great commanders shouldn't have lost to a smaller army with weaker commanders. Then I go play a Total War game, where I can virtually ensure that any decent army can smash any enemy army, and I get sort of an action fix that way. It's also a bit of a relief in Total War to be able to conquer territories so relatively quickly compared to other strategy games. And then, when the Total War diplomatic system starts to annoy me with its limitations, I go back to CK2 and revel in the depth and relationships. Total War is a battle simulator while CK2 is a feudalism/dynasty simulator, and their stark differences are what make them complement each other so well!
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