Celestial Tesla Jan 10, 2013 @ 12:07pm
Republics
So i was reading a forum the other day, and a guy metioned turning his counties into republics(aka with the city as the main place in the couty not a castle) for the money. However i have not seen this even mention anywhere else. Could someone please explain how you even do this and what you think the pros and cons of it are.
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El Presidente de San Isicio Jan 10, 2013 @ 2:31pm 
You only can through cheating or very weird circumstances,

BUT, your big journey suddenly ends when you change into a republic, as you aren't allowed to play as one.

You can mod it they say with changing some data, but I didn't got further than unlocking the pagans.
Sweet Tooth Jan 10, 2013 @ 2:36pm 
Republic DLC incoming next week.
Finjinimo Jan 11, 2013 @ 12:33am 
If you give the mayor of a town the Count title for that County, then it becomes a 'republic'. And will give you more money because you get a larger slice of a Cities wealth (usually), whereas if you leave a baron in charge he likely won't pay you anything at all.

Once you have a mayor with a count title, then you can also give him a duke title. And because he obeys the City Taxation laws, he will pay you much more from the money he has collected from his vassals, then a Duke or Bishop ever would.

I imagine that is the kind of republic the fellow in the other forum was talking about.

The upside is you get more money.
The downside is the relationship hit you take because the mayor won't like being ruled over by a nobel. He will always be one of the most likely to rebel.
jerry.barrington Jan 11, 2013 @ 3:04am 
And he'll be crap for levies. But the money is very useful later in the game, once you fell pretty secure militarily. Just keep a good balance of nobles for levies and republics for money.
[XI]Tedstery Jan 11, 2013 @ 9:46am 
You'll be able to play as Republics next weeks, as they are releasing a DLC to play as Republics with a totally new way of playing
AethGorr Jan 12, 2013 @ 3:46am 
Why do this? What about "Wrong type of holding in the demesne" or so, giving negative opinion? IMHO much easier is just to build cities in all availaible free spaces. And maintain good relations with mayors
jerry.barrington Jan 12, 2013 @ 7:05am 
Why? We said why: money.

If the mayor if your direct vassal, that's fine.

If you have a count as a vassal, the mayors under him pay him according to the city taxe rate. Then he pays you a cut, at the feudal tax rate, which means little to nothing.

But if you make the county a republic, then he will pay taxes according to the city rate. So you get a lot more money.
AethGorr Jan 12, 2013 @ 8:23am 
Ah yes, i got it. When a lot of mayors is under their lieges, then money from them is going through their lieges like through sponge, not directly to me. Ok then)
Celestial Tesla Jan 12, 2013 @ 10:41am 
Is their anyway to make so you get to choose who the next mayor is going to be or is it always random(open elective)
AethGorr Jan 12, 2013 @ 4:12pm 
random i think
Micgoo Jun 23, 2013 @ 8:11am 
That's not true I think, if I grant a courtier who is married a barony and they have children, the sons would inherit the barony. If the said baron doesn't have children then you are the heir to the barony, I assume the same is true with mayors.
Du Guesclin Jun 23, 2013 @ 12:42pm 
Barons are nobles, so they follow the law feudal laws of succession. Mayors are elected.

Well, now that this thread has been necroed, let's use it. When you give a mayor some land to make himself a republic, does he build trade posts if you have the Republic DLC? And more importantly, do you get a share of the money as his lord and master? I haven't played a republic yet, so I don't know their mechanics.
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Joe Jun 23, 2013 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by Mac_Abane:
Barons are nobles, so they follow the law feudal laws of succession. Mayors are elected.

Well, now that this thread has been necroed, let's use it. When you give a mayor some land to make himself a republic, does he build trade posts if you have the Republic DLC? And more importantly, do you get a share of the money as his lord and master? I haven't played a republic yet, so I don't know their mechanics.

Yes, once you give a mayor a duchy (makes a republic) then that republic will answer to you if you are a king or higher. This republic will create there own tradeposts and randomly create 5 partician families. You get more money from republics rather then normal counties but I don't know how much. It's also worth noting that you don't need 'The Republic' to make republics, but to play them. :)
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Du Guesclin Jun 23, 2013 @ 2:12pm 
Thanks. :-)
Joe Jun 23, 2013 @ 2:22pm 
No problem :)
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