Mithfir Jan 1, 2013 @ 11:53am
About absolute cognatic...
Has anyone played with this succession law? It looks interesting enough to try a playthrough with it... except I'm not sure if my dynasty would live long enough in a divided Spain. I didn't try a Spain playthrough yet, would it be viable or I would get crushed too easily as the king of Navarre in 1080?
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Wander Jan 1, 2013 @ 2:25pm 
I tried, and I even did quite good (for my standards). But I don't find it so useful. If you give a county to a female vassal, she tends to marry with others male vassals, so you have vassals with multiple counties, and that's not good. Plus, you have to always look for matrilinear marriage...for me, just more problems.
kailstark Jan 1, 2013 @ 9:07pm 
if you dont want to play in spain you can always pick somewhere else and use the ruler designer dlc to make that person basque its what i did, now i have the empire of brittania with absoute cognatic succession and greek culture due to marrying in with the byz empire
Alyiakal Jan 1, 2013 @ 9:12pm 
The King of Navarra starts with a lot of siblings in 1066 that can be married off for alliances (and is a Jimena king, so is allied with the major block of Spanish kingdoms, but doesn't have claims on them). It's a viable start because you have some weak Muslim Emirates near you for an immediate quick kill with alliance help, while the bigger Spanish kingdoms have other problems. Spain itself isn't that hard to play in, but a good working knowledge of the game's mechanics is recommended.

As for the succession law itself, the biggest bonus is being able to land female characters. This is mostly important because it allows you to press a greater variety of weak claims. Also, you can do really silly things like make female characters into bishops. Succession strategy is not really affected that much (still need to train your firstborn very well in Primogeniture and Gavelkind, Elective not affected at all, Seniority still not great for stability).
Loli14 Jan 2, 2013 @ 12:48am 
Ew, why would you want a Queen/Duchess/Countess. Sure it's fun for roleplay but it just leads to chaos.
Mithfir Jan 2, 2013 @ 11:06am 
Thanks for the feedback! I might give the king of Navarra a shot for my next playthrough and try it out. In my previous France playthrough, I played a queen since my character only got 3 daughters. She had incredible stats, so that got me curious about absolute cognatic. What I found stupid was that I had to give her husband a small barony so that she could be considered "landed" and start having kids...
Kaarin Mar 1, 2013 @ 12:01pm 
As a note: it's actually possible, without using the editor, to make it possible to change it. It does, however, involve editing a file.

One needs to go to -

steam\steamapps\common\crusader kings ii\decisions

Find - succession_laws.txt

search for: true_cognatic_succession

Remove the following line:

allow = {
holder_scope = { culture = basque }
}
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