Crusader Kings II

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Ueriah Apr 7, 2013 @ 8:39am
Any advice for starting as Scotland? It's a rough starting spot, with two dukes, one of who will most likely revolt out of the gate. Ideas?
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Mr. Hanky Apr 7, 2013 @ 8:59am 
assassinate the duke in question through plot and intrigue if possible. Scotland starts with almost no gold or income, so work on building up income over time. If that duke rebels, hope you secure an alliance with someone or it might be a tough fight.
dwightk Apr 7, 2013 @ 11:30am 
I've played Scotland a few times, and yeah, if you can't convice them to not rebel right off the bat then you are lost. I've generally been able to appease everyone long enough to unify the kingdom.

I'm just playing the base installation, so I find plots/assassinations slow and expensive. I've seen lots of people mention it though, so maybe it is better in one of the expansions.

Feasts are a good inexpensive way to make your vassals happier with you.

If everyone in your kingdom except the troublesome duke is happy with you you can usually survive a civil war.

prince_of_arfon Apr 7, 2013 @ 10:34pm 
I'm playing as Scotland right now and found it pretty easy to start as a count who is NOT in one of the incorporated duchies. I chose Fife, who at the earliest starting date reports directly to the king. I easily conquered two neighboring counties, then formed the Duchy of Albany within the first generation. In another generation I had successfully exploited a civil war and become king.

...Then things got tough. The Scots like to rebel, and I lost the throne once and had to fight hard to regain it after a generation. I'm 5 or 6 generations in now, and finally strong and well-liked, but my vassals are still fighting each other and there's basically never been true peace in the entirety of the realm since ever.

Since the Scots form factions a lot, I've been using my chancellor in conjunction with my spymaster to focus on troublesome lords to get them to stop joining factions. I also ALWAYS recruit the best men possible for my council from anywhere in the world. Greeks, Italians, Russians, Spaniards...they've all been at my court at some time.
K1ngFiasco Apr 9, 2013 @ 3:27am 
Originally posted by prince_of_arfon:
IThe Scots like to rebel

Holy♥♥♥♥♥♥do they ever. I just got done playing Scotland. I decided to create a ruler and I chose the year that Robert the Bruce came to be king of Scotland, thinking that the game would just eliminate him from the game. WRONG. After countless rebellions and claims to my throne and many executions and assassinations things finally quieted down.

Until of course, I died at 51 and my 16 year old son took the throne. Weird thing about my first ruler is he had 7 sons and not a single girl. As soon as my son, the rightful heir, took the throne all hell broke loose. My vassals and my own brother all came at me with everything they had (luckily only the one son had any landed titles) and since he had barely been on the throne had no allies to call. With the help of some mercenaries I was able to yet again squash the rebellion.

Until some♥♥♥♥♥♥in Moray decided things were going too smoothly for me and found some relative of the Bruce line that I had missed. This time they came back stronger, and since I had spent most of my funds on mercenaries on the previous two civil wars I stood no chance. The Kingdom of Scotland is no more, a Bruce now sits on a throne that commands about 3 counties since my/his vassals decided to retain their independance. And to make things worse a massive army of rebels showed up, there are herectics all along the coast, and the King of England has decided (wisely) that it is the prefect opportunity to finally control the entire island.

In essence, ♥♥♥♥ the Scot nobles. Shoulda taken the movie Braveheart as a lesson.
prince_of_arfon Apr 9, 2013 @ 11:05pm 
Ouch, that's a tough break! I used the Ruler Creator to make a family of diplomats, which definitely helps keep the Scots down a bit. I still face the threat of rebellion soon after an heir takes over and have to act fast against factions, but so far the relatively high diplomacy skills of my leaders tends to even out most peoples' opinions of me after a few years. We'll see, though. My current leader, who regained the throne around 40, is now aging. The realm is strong and stable, and most everyone likes him, even after he increased crown authority to Medium (I got worried that all the ducal infighting was weakening the realm against future international conflicts). We'll see if his son can hold it together after he dies!
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