HyperGoat Mar 25, 2013 @ 6:21pm
How do I give all my titles to my heir upon death without upsetting other heirs and vassals?
My friend says to use seniority, but I want a way for no one to get ♥♥♥♥ed.
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Claes Mar 25, 2013 @ 6:33pm 
When power shifts, especially when all of it shifts to one person, people will be unhappy. To the best of my knowledge.

The trick is adjusting your vassals to the succession with as little neg opinion as possible, something that I am still bad at. I will be following this thread as well in case I am wrong ;)
Maximum Troll Mar 25, 2013 @ 6:37pm 
Someone will always get ♥♥♥♥ed. Just make sure the guys who do are easily dissuaded from trying to do anything about it though. I prefer agnatic-cognatic primogeniture, that way at least if you don't have any eligible sons, you can have a daughter take the title for your dynasty.
HyperGoat Mar 25, 2013 @ 6:43pm 
To clarify: I'd rather not have a primogentiure, I just want the titles I personally own to be passed. For example, I own the title of Rennes, Dublin, and Canarias as duke of Brittany, and want my son, Will Ferrel 1 to inherit those titles, because if i don't, my grandson will have like 1 county
HyperGoat Mar 25, 2013 @ 6:54pm 
Also what is the default succession law for Brittany starting in 1066?
Cosmik Debris Mar 25, 2013 @ 8:29pm 
If you can keep your most of your vassels happy Elective is the one that gives you the most control. You can pick whoever you want to inherit. But if your vassels don't like you they won't vote they way you want them to.
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eXistenZ Mar 26, 2013 @ 2:46am 
Seniority is horrible, it gives for a lot of short reigns with old men and no control over who is gonna inherit.

Elective is the way to go. Pick your best son, and if he has good traits, he will already get some votes for that. If you dont do anyhing to upset your vassals, they will follow your vote. If things get really bad, you can always plot to kill a pretendent with a lot of votes, or hand out money to get votes

You can also try ultimogeniture. You dont need high crown authority to implement it, unlike primogeniture, and it gives more certainy

I dont know the default succesion law for brittany, but hover over the shield and it will show. Most regions start with gavelkind however. And all vassals need to be in the green to approve the change in succesion law
harvia.RAPISTelija Mar 26, 2013 @ 3:13am 
I don't know why, but having a ernomous amount of gold and little luck, you can easily kill any unpleasant vassals from your country. Don't get caught - no one get's ♥♥♥♥ed of... Althought it usually ends with civil war where all your vassals try to kill you. But with the ernomous amount of gold, hire some mercenaries and wipe them out of your land. Now kill your others sons but leave the best one alive. And then when you are ready, try to kill yourself. And your kingdom will be in your son's hands. And repeat after repeat...
I don't know. Maybe I'm bad at this or something...
sounds like a wooosh Mar 26, 2013 @ 4:14am 
Every changing ruler is a major break. I mostly even quit the game then, as all my current plans are broken for the moment. – And come back later to try to clear the new situation.

However it seems to me that succession wars are just normal. Most new rulers do not have enough prestige to rule when they start. So they have to work for it then. – And a successful war against revolting vassals will even help!

Just aid the new ruler by saving up some money for additional war costs / bribing just at his start. And make sure he is (possibly by far!) the most powerful player in the game to be played. If you succeed with this there is a chance that there will be no war at all. (But make sure he gets prestige then.)
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