Crusader Kings II

Crusader Kings II

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Hecaton Apr 19, 2014 @ 1:03pm
Too many little things wrong with this game
I picked this game up a bit before Rajas of India, and watching the changeover has been painful. There are just too many little bugs that they introduced, that will likely never get fixed, that can totally screw up a playthrough in their ridiculously complex, time-intensive game. They clearly are working on a 'if the player is unhappy then nothing is broken' model of balance, given the nerfs they applied to feasts, hunts, education, and even marriage (!) in the last patch, and the buffs they gave to adventurers. They simply don't have a fun play experience in mind, and to me that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ beyond belief. I play games to have fun and relax, not suffer for some game designer's draconian idea of balance. I like a challenge, but this ♥♥♥♥ is just silly.
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Evil Crusader Apr 19, 2014 @ 1:06pm 
What did they nerf in the hunts/fairs?
I honestly didn't play much where I could spam Hunts/fairs, but they don't seem to have gotten bad to me.
Education is better now, marriage don't know, adventurers.... adventurers I really don't know. They should just reduce them a bit.
Hecaton Apr 19, 2014 @ 1:13pm 
They made them cost a fixed 50/25 gold and got rid of most of the beneficial events that occur during them. Now all they are are a sink for gold.

Education is currently broken. You can't educate children if you're on your lord's council, the 'will not educate child in a foreign court' malus pops up randomly even within the same realm, all sorts of stuff like that. Moreover, the AI will not educate your courtiers like it used to, creating a situation in which all your courtier's kids will be completely uneducated unless you micro the ♥♥♥♥ out of your court (and there's no notification for when they get old enough to learn).
Evil Crusader Apr 19, 2014 @ 1:24pm 
The fixed cost is good, in the vast majority of the cases it is better than the scaling one, and it makes more sense that a higher level ruler would go on doing such stuff rather than the Count of a single County.
Education... the first part sounds like a bit messy, I honestly never got around to send children all over the place, favoring to grow them in my court.
About the second part: you just check up on them every few years, assign everybody, and that's all. It was the sensible thing to do before, it is the same now. If you want everybody to be good, you gotta work on that; I don't see much of a problem with that.

I don't think the game balance/stability is great, in fact I play CK2 since a bit before Legacy of Rome and it's pretty much at one of the lowest points.
There are things to be improved, I strongly agree, but I prefer less efficient fairs/hunts to 'spam till Charitable, Gregarious and Diligent, gazillion Learning after 1200 because theatre is cool' or 'let's educate every potential enemy and send children around the world but educate them at home'.
Last edited by Evil Crusader; Apr 19, 2014 @ 1:24pm
Taiwan Number One Apr 19, 2014 @ 2:34pm 
Leave it to Paradox to "fix" what isn't broken.
Originally posted by Richard_Motion:
Education is currently broken. You can't educate children if you're on your lord's council, the 'will not educate child in a foreign court' malus pops up randomly even within the same realm, all sorts of stuff like that. Moreover, the AI will not educate your courtiers like it used to, creating a situation in which all your courtier's kids will be completely uneducated unless you micro the ♥♥♥♥ out of your court (and there's no notification for when they get old enough to learn).
Those are minor issues.
Kids constantly losing their teachers (with no notification), that's a huge problem.
Last edited by Exothermically Eclectic; Apr 19, 2014 @ 2:50pm
Stitxch Apr 19, 2014 @ 5:38pm 
lol git gud

Seriously, CK2 isn't that hard. Yeah, RoI introduced some annoying bugs, but hardly any of it is gamebreaking. If not getting notifications is really messing you up, go in and fix it in the message settings.

If anything, CK2 after RoI is too easy. Invasion CBs make the game a pushover if you have the slightest mind for the game's strategy. I've had games as the Magyars since RoI came out (where the Magyars got 'nerfed') where I went on to conquer all of Europe before 900 even hit. And yeah, while marriages got nerfed a little, they also upgraded the genetic trait transfer rate. Really, try marrying about four generations of geniuses and watch as every single child you have is born genius.
Hecaton Apr 19, 2014 @ 7:09pm 
Szat, the difficulty of the game isn't in question here. I can blob just fine as well; the issue is that the game itself is sloppy and tedious due to poor QA on Paradox's part combined with some short-sighted design decisions. Sometimes I just want to do something interesting or unique, and not being able to educate character properly is a huge pain in my ass when I want to do that.

Also, there are no notifications for what you're talking about. It's just a case of 'more micro, less fun' due to a designer oversight.
Zeetarb Apr 20, 2014 @ 6:40am 
Agree with a lot of what's been said here, and have posted a bit about it in other threads too (especially the education bugs). In one fell swoop they've pretty much taken away everything you can do to pass the time as a one-county small ruler.

Can't have events like hunts and feasts because they're too expensive now, can't have fun educating your courtiers kids because they reset every month. In my earlier games I had a lot of fun building up dynasties of courtiers in my court whom I could then start to land once I gained significant land.

I liked the thought that these are my families loyal retainers throughout the generations, and are finally being rewarded for their service. I also liked the despair and heartache when the great-grandson of your favourite courtier rebels and plots against you. (the great grandfather in question was a high-intruige lowborn who was next in line for the throne when my infant child-count ascended, and not only didn't plot once but also stopped several plots against me and was the only character with a positive opinion of me for the first decade of my life.)

Anyway, am surprised it was so broken. Before release of RoI everyone was joking about how the game breaks with every major DLC - but I doubt anyone expected it would be this significant.
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Date Posted: Apr 19, 2014 @ 1:03pm
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