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Dayan Mar 3, 2014 @ 12:25pm
Rightous imprisonment without a known reason?
Dear fellow CK2 players,

Right now I am the Duchesse of Mercia (Middle England) and very often I receive the rightous imprisonment message for someone who behaved dishonourably. In most of the cases I cannot figure out why this person in question gains the rightous imprisonment...and this leaves me with the question wether I should imprison this person or not. Can anyone tell me how I can figure out the reason for the rightous imprisonment? Tnx anyw!

Gr. Terminerd
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I have the same question. I can't help you, but I usually don't imprison anyone unless they have a plot going that is important, a dangerous ambition, or are a powerful vassal of mine (In which case they're better in jail than out, no matter what they did).
Dayan Mar 3, 2014 @ 12:47pm 
Ok tnx man!
Relnor Mar 3, 2014 @ 1:40pm 
This usually happens when you find out about a plot ( even minor ones ), I too haven't always figured out what it is, but here's the thing:

As a ruler, you don't actually care about justice or righteousness, that's for the rubes. All you care about is what you can gain or how the position of the crown can be strenghtened through a vassal's imprisonment.

Lets say you have a righteous imprisonment option on a vassal you are in good relations with. Whatever gave you the option may not actually be a threat to you, but a failed imprisonment attempt and the ensuing rebellion could. So there's no point in imprisoning him, you gain nothing, and you only stand to lose if it doesn't work. He will also hate you, which can cause you trouble with elections etc.

But if you can imprison someone who is a threat to you, like an Ambitious vassal that you didn't manage to appease in some other way, or someone who's land you want, or who is at the head of a potential future rebellion.

Ofcourse, I'm talking from merely the "most efficient way to play" point of view, if you're trying to roleplay a ruler (maybe based on his/her traits ? ), you might not always want to act in the "best" way, I've done that sometimes, it can be fun.
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Sir Hornet Mar 3, 2014 @ 1:45pm 
i just like to ransom them back or keep as hostages
dm.harlin Mar 3, 2014 @ 9:44pm 
Originally posted by {TiOMy}Terminerd:
Dear fellow CK2 players,
In most of the cases I cannot figure out why this person in question gains the rightous imprisonment...
You should check what is written in the diplomacy window when you select 'Imprison' option

a) This character is a leader of a plot - then you can simply check what plot is it (the icon is near the portrait of a character)
As Relnor said, it makes sense to imprison potentially dangerous vassals (ambitious, envious, or just those which are becoming too powerful). For 'good' vassals, I prefer to ask them to end plot.

b) This character is excommunicated
Simple enough.

c) This character has acted dishonorably toward you.
Not sure what this means, but probably an assassination/rebellion attempt in the past.
Visi Mar 3, 2014 @ 11:06pm 
That usually happens when you discover a plot they're involved in. Once discovered, you can see what they're actually plotting at the intrigue tab, or on their character page via a tooltip on a dagger-like icon similar to the intrigue one.
Dayan Mar 4, 2014 @ 12:34am 
Hi guys,

Thanks for your replies. The case I dont understand is the 'acted dishonourably'. Of course it has to do something with killing someone or rebellions, but these things aren't linked to the reason of their dishonourable behaviour...Most of the time I don't kill anyone if there aren't clear reason to do so. But for now I am glad to know other people deal with these issues as well. Tnx!
well, you can always imprison someone then release them and gain rep with everyone for being such a cool dude. Or you can banish them after a righteous imprisonment and not lose quite as much rep with everyone.
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