alrik_af Feb 16 @ 12:12pm
Broken diplomacy?
I just tried the demo to see if this was something worthwhile.

But as Poland I attacked the yellow lads to the north claiming their lowermost region (of three) Taking that and killing all their troops did not make them accept peace (and giving the region to me), so I sieged and sucessfully occupied the next one , but that didn't change anything, so I decided to take the last one as well and as I was just about to take it I got a message that my war with them ended inconclusivly and my siege ended abrupty, with them having granted the region I had made claims to and sucessfully occupied to their neighbour to the west (the white ones.)

Is the diplomacy that broken in the actual game as well? Because that'd make it utterly unplayable.
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Koro Feb 16 @ 2:25pm 
You need to get the warscore to 100 % to win a holy war. Most wars have to be decided this way, though some de jur wars you will find the AI to give up earlier. As for the end of the war, I can only speculate but defenders in a holy war have the option of switching to the attackers religion, thereby rendering your CB of holy war invalid and ending the war inconclusively.
Jurjen Feb 16 @ 3:08pm 
It could be that the regions you were attacking were in rebellion. Both rebels and loyalists will be hostile to you. If you attack the rebels and they are crushed before you win they will revert back into their former faction and the war will end inconclusively. This is why I always check the political situation of a county that I am about to attack.
alrik_af Feb 16 @ 7:19pm 
Nope, no rebellion. I attacked and defeated one faction, but the region I had claimeds on went to a third and as I wasn't at war with that one, my war ended inconclusivley. What I don't get is why he'd be able to give the region to someone else entierly, without any fight between them. Sure he did go in with an army in the second province, but there was no sieging from that army, in fact there was a tiny force of the first faction trying to reclaim their lands but too small to make for a sucessful siege. and in the process proving that these two factions wasn't even at war with one another.

At any rate it seems utterly ridiculous that someone would be at war with another and then without any diplomacy with this winning part, the war would suddenly end as pulled from under their feet.
Mjölnir Feb 16 @ 9:40pm 
Diplomacy is fine in this game, it can be a bit wacky at times but show me a game where it has PERFECT AI. This game is great and you would be passing up something great over something like this but that's just my opinion.

I have not tried the demo but...

From my understanding there are a multitude of reasons as to why a war can end inconclusivly, like a claimant dieing during the war, someone else pressing and winning the same claim you pressed, and etc. As said above you need a warscore of 100% and generally, it's not a good idea to go start a war on someone whose already at war with 3-4 other kingdoms and 75% of there teritory is already occupied, you won't get 100% warscore needed for victory, but sometimes they will ask for peace and you keep all occupied territory xD.
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Highly Heretical Feb 16 @ 10:35pm 
Originally posted by alrik_af:
What I don't get is why he'd be able to give the region to someone else entierly, without any fight between them.
You can't give a title to someone in another realm. Possibly whoever owned the province died and it was inherited by someone else in another realm.
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alrik_af Feb 17 @ 6:40am 
Originally posted by Highly Heretical:
You can't give a title to someone in another realm. Possibly whoever owned the province died and it was inherited by someone else in another realm.

That sounds like what must have happened. The region in question was part of the dutchy that the neighbour owned the other two provinces of.

I did after some huffing and puffing have another go at it and managed to get a decent round, seems the Demo is only 20 years, but that was enough to get a feel for it, and I admit, the set-up in very interesting. No game is over as soon as you have the largest army (like rome, or civ or somesuch.) I'll defenetly buy this game. :)
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