Jacuzzi Feb 11, 2014 @ 8:37pm
Is DLC required?
Rather I'm asking if DLC increases the options you have in the game and if it adds more depth?
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Supplican Feb 11, 2014 @ 8:57pm 
There are only 6 contentful DLCs, the rest are cosmetic. Those 6 all add sigificant gameplay changes and options. The Sunset Invasion one is rather silly and can be foregone, the other 5 I'd recommend you get, yes.
Blood Ravens Feb 11, 2014 @ 9:25pm 
My advice is just buy the game-changing DLC, you don't have to buy the graphical DLC (for example : Dynasty Shield, Unit Packs, Faces).

From the big DLCs, I recommend not picking up Sunset Invasion, because it just add a "fun" element on a game, and it deviates too much from the history.

The summary of the big DLCs :

- Sword of Islam : Allow you to play Muslim countries. Muslim have different playstyles than European countries. For example : You can conquer one province of your next nation without a specific cause, you can also have four wives, etc.
- The Republic : Allow you to play as Republics. Republics are quite different than nations, they are mostly focused on economy and trading, and their wars are mostly about trading post and embargo, unlike nations who may be focused on expansion or claims.
- Legacy of Rome : Some deeper functions on Roman Empire and Orthodox religion, allows retinues. Not much if you don't play Orthodox and HRE, but retinues are great.
- The Old Gods : Adds Norse, Pagans, and Zoroastrians, a really good DLC. The pagans/Norse have different mechanics too, such as allowing them to raid European nations without declaring war.
- Sons of Abraham : Adds deeper function to Catholic religion, and to less-extent, to Muslim religion. Add new Papal mechanic and Holy orders, a must if you play Catholic nations.Also allow you to play as Jewish as restore the kingdom of Israel.

A new one :
- Rajas of India : Expansion to India.

My advice is to get the Package Sale from Steam, it's cheaper than nitpicking the DLCs.
Corrupted Sanity Feb 11, 2014 @ 10:42pm 
Well, if you're going for historical accuracy you don't want Sunset Invasion, and it doesn't add as much as the other ones do, but I personally very much enjoy fighting off the Aztecs. You can turn off specific DLCs for different playthroughs as well.


Old Gods is probably the best one to get.
Last edited by Corrupted Sanity; Feb 11, 2014 @ 10:43pm
petri.piira Feb 13, 2014 @ 2:03pm 
The only really mandatory one is Legacy of Rome, as it unlocks retinues. It appears the game is nowadays balanced around those being available. (If you select the 1.111 "beta" from properties, they are not needed).
GC13 Feb 13, 2014 @ 2:32pm 
Originally posted by petri.piira:
The only really mandatory one is Legacy of Rome, as it unlocks retinues.
I'll note that retinues are only considered "essential" because they turn the game into easy mode for larger kingdoms (which would otherwise have a lot more trouble with internal stability), as they are many times more powerful than they would have been in reality.
Azane Feb 13, 2014 @ 3:14pm 
Legacy of Rome is required because Retinues are balanced around; and Old Gods adds a longer timeline which can add a lot of enjoyability depending on how long of a campaign you want to run.

all of the other DLCs are an "If you want to play as X".

The only major DLC I'd suggest ignoring completely is the Aztec Invasion one, because it's just ridiculously silly.
Last edited by Azane; Feb 13, 2014 @ 3:15pm
WillScy09 Feb 13, 2014 @ 11:14pm 
I love all the DLC, even aztec invasion. I think they are all worth it if on sale. Wait until there's a big 75% off sale and you can pick the fluffy stuff up super cheap.
Jarl Feb 14, 2014 @ 12:56am 
It's a game so nothing is requiered at all. But the DLC gives you more options once you've played the vanilla ones and want something different. Look at the map, deside what you want to play as next and buy that DLC. IMO the face-, unit- and music packs are more than worth it and not just cosmetic: they actually give so much more game play due to the extra touch they give. Also it's a question of time: do you play enough to make the DLC worth it, or wait for a sale?
Thanos Feb 14, 2014 @ 2:17am 
The game is perfectly playable without the non-cosmetic DLC (just going to ignore the cosmetic stuff completely). But the game is MUCH better with it. The only exception is Sunset Invasion. You can skip that if you want. All it adds is a fictional Aztec invasion from the west. I have it but I play with it disabled most of the time.
Mansen Feb 14, 2014 @ 7:06am 
The keyword here is optional - All of the changes from the "big DLC" are in your game and are included with each patch. So even if you don't have say the Muslim DLC, you still have the changes and improvements from it.

You're not losing out on patches just because you don't own DLC - You can even play with DLC you don't own if someone who owns them hosts a game with them enabled. So it's pretty much win win.

Personally though, I like to play as all of them so I own all of the big DLC - I pick up a some of the tiny "cosmetic" ones when there's a sale if they interest me. Especially the faces and music are great for immersion.
Greyvaris Feb 14, 2014 @ 8:11am 
DLC sale at Gamersgate. Old gods is 3.75$ for example. Most are 75% off.
Laxe.dll Feb 14, 2014 @ 12:58pm 
CK2 Collection is on sale on Humble Bundle for 19$ but it is missing

Crusader Kings II: Celtic Portraits
Crusader Kings II: Celtic Unit Pack
Crusader Kings II: Customization Pack
Crusader Kings II: Dynasty Shield III
Crusader Kings II: Europa Universalis IV Converter
Crusader Kings II: Finno-Ugric Unit Pack
Crusader Kings II: Hymns of Abraham
Crusader Kings II: Hymns to the Old Gods
Crusader Kings II: Military Orders Unit Pack
Crusader Kings II: Norse Portraits
Crusader Kings II: Norse Unit Pack
Crusader Kings II: Saxon Unit Pack
Crusader Kings II: Songs of Yuletide
Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
Crusader Kings II: Warriors of Faith Unit Pack

those you can get from Bundle Stars for a euro a pieace
Finnway Feb 14, 2014 @ 1:10pm 
Originally posted by Azane:
The only major DLC I'd suggest ignoring completely is the Aztec Invasion one, because it's just ridiculously silly.
It's worth mentioning that Eastern Europe gets attacked by Mongols 3 times and the purpose of the Aztec Invasion DLC is to try to balance things a little. It also changes native American cultures when you import a CK2 save into EU4, so if you like continuing your games into EU4 it's probably worth it.
I agree that it's the least worthwhile DLC (not including skins). However, it's almost necesary if you want to import your games into EU4 because European countries are overpowered otherwise.
Last edited by Finnway; Feb 14, 2014 @ 1:14pm
runequester Feb 15, 2014 @ 10:26am 
I'd start with just the main game, and then add DLC's when yo ufeel like it.

I actually kind of like the unit graphic ones, but thats the sort of stuff where if I have 2 random dollars in my paypal account, I'll grab one.
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