Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Multiplayer
Amazing Larry Aug 2, 2013 @ 6:56pm
Activision blames poor CoD: Ghosts pre-orders on next-gen consoles.
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/08/02/cod-ghosts-pre-orders-negatively-impacted-by-console-transition/

Odd...considering the game is being released on both current and next-gen consoles.

Eric Hirshberg is full of it.

The real reason CoD pre-orders have diminished is due to more and more people finally realizing the facts. And as I've said, BLOPS2 is directly responsible for the most part. The game is broken, getting worse with each new patch release. Instead of fixing the game, they just care about nickel and diming people with $2 weapon skins.

On top of that...Ghosts once again utilizes another modded version of the same archaic engine that will continue to display the same issues over and over again. Only this time with a dog and "sentient" fish.

There's one word to describe their incorrect assumptions...and that's denial.

Ego, compounded by arrogance, ususally causes that.

Looks like this gravy train is about to get really lumpy.

Last edited by Amazing Larry; Aug 2, 2013 @ 6:57pm
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[T1]WaR Aug 5, 2013 @ 9:58pm 
Originally posted by Amazing Larry:
Originally posted by T1WaR:
For starters, CoD and BF are two completely different games. Other than being military themed first person shooters, they have little in common. The selling point of CoD is that it is a simple game that most people can pick up and play. BF is the exact opposite, it is a franchise that is designed entirely for core gamers, even though BF3 is a casualized installment, the audience remains the same.

Second, games are rarely in "direct competition." Developers frequently talk to each other and help each other. Like I said before, the "competition" is 95% fanboy talk.

Also, I'll continue to correct people that spew plain ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ out of their asses on game development if they say something that is both ignorant and incorrect, thanks.

You people are seriously something else. Has a large chunk of the world's population started going arbitrarily stupid or something?

Again...yes they are in direct competition. Don't believe me. But 15 seconds to search for articles would have saved you the embarrassment you are about to receive.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/12/03/ea-ceo-believes-battlefield-can-beat-call-of-duty.aspx

Click on that. Now if you are able to comprehend the words...the title reads...."EA CEO Believes Battlefield Can Beat Call Of Duty."

Hell the beginning of that articles begins with, "It's no secret that Electronic Arts has been gunning for the Call of Duty franchise."

That's from 2010.

This article is from 5 days ago...

http://www.vg247.com/2013/07/31/battlefield-4-vs-call-of-duty-ghosts-riccitiello-pretty-confident-that-eas-got-better-cards/

What part of BF and CoD being direct competition can you not possibly understand now?

Some of you people are so painfully dense...
EA has been using fanboyism as a marketing campaign for years and it's hilarious because people like you take the bait. Competition is a two way thing and the devs of CoD games rarely compare themselves to other franchises.

But if you want to link me to meaningless articles then I'll do the same.

http://nightmaremode.net/2011/10/modern-warfare-3-gm-not-impressed-by-battlefield-franchise-12633/

"To douse the flames of excitement for Battlefield 3, Schofield made it clear that he does not see the title as a threat to his company. “Let’s just say that I still use Modern Warfare 2 as my competitor. I need to make sure that the millions of people that played Modern Warfare 2 will pick up this game, notice that it’s better, notice that it’s bigger, that there’s more in it, that there’s more polish, all that stuff. That’s what I’m concerned with – this community.”"

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/01/call-of-duty-digital-earnings-see-significant-growth

Once again, nothing about BF here. Activision would rather compare Ghosts to BO1 than to BF.

"Looking ahead, Activision noted the upcoming release of Call of Duty: Ghosts, which has “double” the pre-orders of Call of Duty: Black Ops (the last “sub-brand” launched for the franchise). Activision Publishing CEO Eric Hirshberg noted that Ghosts has the “most aggressive” marketing and digital promotions in the history of the Call of Duty series."

As I said, BF and CoD are NOT in direct competition. This is something fanboys love to start because kids like the OP always have to compare x to y and EA uses this to their advantage because it is free marketing.

As for the point on devs helping each other, it's true whether or not your imagination wants to accept it or not. Hell I can go on polycount right now and look at feedback given by some professionals. I even remember a thread where somebody was showing off vegetation they made and one of the vegetation artists at dice was giving critiques.

I'm not saying that devs are going to be giving each other source code and assets, but it is very easy to get critiques from professionals.

Of course, you seem to think that every dev is in fierce competition which is actually quite funny. Keep using your imagination OP, I'm sure it'll get you far.

AimForce Aug 6, 2013 @ 1:43am 
Hey guys let's preorder our ♥♥♥♥ing games before the release of a multiplayer trailer and or gameplay. And let's preorder for current-gen consoles of course, because everyone knows next-gen consoles suck and or are not sure which one to buy. EASY
PsyCotik Aug 6, 2013 @ 4:42am 
Hopefully Ghosts has dedicated servers :/
"azbine" Aug 6, 2013 @ 4:43am 
60 coins to be busted by one or more aimboters always, no thanks. BO2 is the last CoD for me, If I want to play CoD again, I had enough, and enough is enough.
Last edited by "azbine"; Aug 6, 2013 @ 4:44am
"azbine" Aug 6, 2013 @ 4:46am 
I prefer keep my 60 coins for one good game or two... WITH NO CHEATERS. WHAT YOU NEVER SEE ONE IN 1000+ hours ??? (so you never report these noobs !!!)
[T1]WaR Aug 6, 2013 @ 5:11am 
Originally posted by Cheops:
I prefer keep my 60 coins for one good game or two... WITH NO CHEATERS. WHAT YOU NEVER SEE ONE IN 1000+ hours ??? (so you never report these noobs !!!)
PC games without cheaters...lol.
Der König Aug 6, 2013 @ 5:20am 
Originally posted by Cheops:
60 coins to be busted by one or more aimboters always, no thanks. BO2 is the last CoD for me, If I want to play CoD again, I had enough, and enough is enough.

L2P
DonkyBoY Aug 6, 2013 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by Der König:
Originally posted by Cheops:
60 coins to be busted by one or more aimboters always, no thanks. BO2 is the last CoD for me, If I want to play CoD again, I had enough, and enough is enough.

L2P

He didnt say he cant play he said that he infact wants to play but has had enough and that enough is enough.

Like many the constant cheating has spoiled the game 4 him.

im not sure where the problem lays as it is writen rather basicaly and in english as well im not sure how your suggestion of "L2P" is of any use / help.

we already know that their is many many cheaters in this title.

so what exactly are you suggesting we learn then Mr Der König I dont see any amount of learning stoping these cheaters from playing in my games.

perhaps your suggesting that there are no cheaters and we just cant play for cr@p.

perhaps take a look around with your eyes open this time you might find them or the many threads of cheaters crying they got banned for no reason in the Steam forums / Activisions facebook support page / pcdev's twitter

not to mention the 100's of online hack / cheat retailers out there that have 100's of 1000's of users all paying $$$ to them for thier products.

yeah sure we need to lean 2 play another game that doesnt have so many idiots in it that has real dedicated servers with real server admins.
Last edited by DonkyBoY; Aug 6, 2013 @ 12:59pm
Delta Aug 6, 2013 @ 1:53pm 
Originally posted by .PsyCotik.:
Hopefully Ghosts has dedicated servers :/
Dedicated servers in my opionion, suck. The admins can set up what every crazy ♥♥♥♥♥♥*t rules they want, like "No Helicoppers", "No UAVs". Keep it the way it is.
KoGGoK Aug 6, 2013 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by Delta:
Originally posted by .PsyCotik.:
Hopefully Ghosts has dedicated servers :/
Dedicated servers in my opionion, suck. The admins can set up what every crazy ♥♥♥♥♥♥*t rules they want, like "No Helicoppers", "No UAVs". Keep it the way it is.

some people just dont get it do they. i want to play the game the way devs ment for it to be played not the way some over zealous server admin wants me to play it.
EBlue@Vacation Aug 6, 2013 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by Delta:
Originally posted by .PsyCotik.:
Hopefully Ghosts has dedicated servers :/
Dedicated servers in my opionion, suck. The admins can set up what every crazy ♥♥♥♥♥♥*t rules they want, like "No Helicoppers", "No UAVs". Keep it the way it is.

Only if the original game is not balanced. Otherwise there is no problem with dedi servers.
DonkyBoY Aug 6, 2013 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by Delta:
Originally posted by .PsyCotik.:
Hopefully Ghosts has dedicated servers :/
Dedicated servers in my opionion, suck. The admins can set up what every crazy ♥♥♥♥♥♥*t rules they want, like "No Helicoppers", "No UAVs". Keep it the way it is.

then dont support the tard admins and thier servers.
play on servers with groups of freinds that you trust with good admins that dont impose stupid rules and remove half the damn game.

most servers I have run the only thing removed was the "noob tube" some times we made custom rules for a few matchs and had some fun.
such as knife only / snipers only / pistols only you get the idea it was just something to help break the monotony and have a little fun with the guys.

you would find that the admins have to give the players what they want or they simply find another server to play on.

or you could even host your own server and police it the way you see fit with the game rules you like and play with other like minded gamers that like what you have.

sureley this is better than being limited to only play it the way the developers allow you thats just plain boaring and the allowing the cheaters a admin free playground to cheat away to thier hearts content
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Der König Aug 6, 2013 @ 3:48pm 
Originally posted by DonkyBoY:
Originally posted by Der König:

L2P

He didnt say he cant play he said that he infact wants to play but has had enough and that enough is enough.

Like many the constant cheating has spoiled the game 4 him.

im not sure where the problem lays as it is writen rather basicaly and in english as well im not sure how your suggestion of "L2P" is of any use / help.

we already know that their is many many cheaters in this title.

so what exactly are you suggesting we learn then Mr Der König I dont see any amount of learning stoping these cheaters from playing in my games.

perhaps your suggesting that there are no cheaters and we just cant play for cr@p.

perhaps take a look around with your eyes open this time you might find them or the many threads of cheaters crying they got banned for no reason in the Steam forums / Activisions facebook support page / pcdev's twitter

not to mention the 100's of online hack / cheat retailers out there that have 100's of 1000's of users all paying $$$ to them for thier products.

yeah sure we need to lean 2 play another game that doesnt have so many idiots in it that has real dedicated servers with real server admins.

L2P2

I don't bother explaining stuff on this forum as 90% of the poster are noobs, idiots and 14 year old whiners. Did I mention the fanboys ?
Cyboroid Aug 6, 2013 @ 6:27pm 
It's because it's the first COD to be transitioned to next gen consoles. The game will be excellent as usual. If people are COD fans then peoples other opinions and bullcrrap stats shouldn't matter. You either personally like it or you don't.
Last edited by Cyboroid; Aug 6, 2013 @ 6:35pm
Nazox` Aug 6, 2013 @ 6:44pm 
Originally posted by DonkyBoY:
Originally posted by Der König:

L2P

He didnt say he cant play he said that he infact wants to play but has had enough and that enough is enough.

Like many the constant cheating has spoiled the game 4 him.

im not sure where the problem lays as it is writen rather basicaly and in english as well im not sure how your suggestion of "L2P" is of any use / help.

we already know that their is many many cheaters in this title.

so what exactly are you suggesting we learn then Mr Der König I dont see any amount of learning stoping these cheaters from playing in my games.

perhaps your suggesting that there are no cheaters and we just cant play for cr@p.

perhaps take a look around with your eyes open this time you might find them or the many threads of cheaters crying they got banned for no reason in the Steam forums / Activisions facebook support page / pcdev's twitter

not to mention the 100's of online hack / cheat retailers out there that have 100's of 1000's of users all paying $$$ to them for thier products.

yeah sure we need to lean 2 play another game that doesnt have so many idiots in it that has real dedicated servers with real server admins.
L2P
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