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Sir Faulty 2012年10月3日上午9:59
A modern day remake of Diablo 2
There is often a sense of deja vu when playing through Torchlight 2 (TL2). I suppose at a base level there will always be that feeling of been-there-done-that when tackling a game within this particular genre but what strikes me is how similar in content and play-style TL2 actually is to Diablo 2 (D2). Now I know most of the dev's that created D2 have had a hand in TL2 but its still suprising to see how closely TL2 plays like a modern day remake of the ol' Grand Daddy of ARPG's itself right down to the setting and story. Like D2 you'll first traverse through a wooded area and move on to a desert, then encounter a swampy glade before moving onto the games version of hell. Is this a bad thing? Probably not when you are working of a template that has yet to be matched since D2 came out in 2000. In many ways TL2 actually surpasses D2 in gameplay, content and most importantly the fun factor. I honestly believe its set the new standard. I loved and played the hell out of D2 upon its release and TL2 has been a floodgate for releasing all those wonderful memories that games like Sacred and Titan's Quest (good games in their own right) were unable to do. Whilst I thoroughly enjoyed Diablo 3 this year (once I got over the anger of the always online DRM) it didn't hold a candle to what was D2 so I walked away a little disappointed. TL2 has managed to rekindle that flame and for that reason alone TL2 wins the ARPG contest of the year. If you loved and played D2 like I did back in the day, you owe yourself the favour - pick this game up now. You won't be disappointed, I can guarentee that and perhaps you too will be transported back to the year 2000 to relive the wonder that was D2. I for one hope these guys make a tidy profit for they deserve it !
最后由 Sir Faulty 编辑于; 2012年10月3日上午11:59
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Metsakurat 2012年10月3日上午10:08 
I can tell that this is something for you: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=100455494
Sir Faulty 2012年10月3日上午10:15 
Ooh nice...where do I get that?
Sir Faulty 2012年10月3日上午11:13 
Thank you so much :)
MilfShake 2012年10月3日上午11:15 
really nice font there.
Zaflis 2012年10月3日上午11:31 
引用自 Metsakurat
I can tell that this is something for you: ...
Owgod... Whoever drew that "5" character should be rolled in tar and feathers.
Metsakurat 2012年10月3日下午12:18 
No problems stefarooh. ;)

引用自 Zaflis
引用自 Metsakurat
I can tell that this is something for you: ...
Owgod... Whoever drew that "5" character should be rolled in tar and feathers.

Well, this is the original Diablo 2 font. If you go back to D2 you see the 5 and 6 are exactly the same in there.

EDIT: Either get this topic to the top of the hub or rate up the screenshot so more D2 fans could find the mod. :)
最后由 Metsakurat 编辑于; 2012年10月3日下午12:19
Atech66 2012年10月3日下午1:55 
ummm because it is the guys that made D2? :)
Metsakurat 2012年10月3日下午2:00 
Yes its the same team, but cmn, the game is basically Diablo 2 with better graphics, less classes and...well...without Diablo. The music is similar(if not the same). The "you are low on mana" is exactly 100% from D2...the areas, mobs(some are just renamed)...its basically Diablo 2 HD. Not that im complaining. Im loving the shit out of this game, but it seems like they just remade D2 lol.
AchromaticSky 2012年10月3日下午4:13 
One notable difference is that Act 3 is actually fun.
Lavian 2012年10月3日下午11:37 
I was actually thinking about how the Dark Alchemist is sort of a parallel to the Dark Wanderer, and Torchlight (and its mines) a parallel to Tristram (and its church catacombs). Not to mention Ordrak's Heart sort of being a parallel to Diablo's Soulstone.
Retorrent 2012年10月4日上午12:10 
Wow man Thanks Metsakurat! And thanks for having a version that dose not change the chat.
Metsakurat 2012年10月4日上午3:40 
引用自 Lavian
I was actually thinking about how the Dark Alchemist is sort of a parallel to the Dark Wanderer, and Torchlight (and its mines) a parallel to Tristram (and its church catacombs). Not to mention Ordrak's Heart sort of being a parallel to Diablo's Soulstone.

Never thought of that. Awesome!



引用自 Zero FUG
Wow man Thanks Metsakurat! And thanks for having a version that dose not change the chat.

Np! I heard that someone is thinking of doing a sequel to D2 for T2...or is alrdy doing it. Im hoping to see a lot of mods that connect the two games.
CrypticJacknife 2012年10月4日上午7:11 
They copy pasted the plot and the combat from a game they did years ago. That's not a remake, that's recycling concepts. Their entire success of this has ridden on the back of Diablo III's fanbase not accepting change.

Don't get me wrong, I like TL2, played a good slot of hours thus far. The fact that this game is literally D2 with a facelift is this game's biggest perk and it's biggest flaw as well. Bring people back to the nostalgic days of B.Net 1.0, but also create a game with LITERALLY 0% original content.

Seriously the levels are even almost completely identical in themes.

If you want to relive D2, yeah sure come on over play this, you will surely enjoy it. If you quit D2 years ago like many people did, then this is not going to satisfy you. It is literally the same game w/less balance, less production value, less classes and worse skills.

I do love this game a lot. But I really wish they put in a little more effort to give it something that no other game has, rather than basing the entire game on copy pasting a previous work.

Oh well maybe we'll get some DLC with some actually unique content in it, we will have to wait and see. =)
JUMP'NSHOOTMAN 2012年10月4日下午7:04 
Not to mention that the end game in D2 actually is a thing. In TL2 the endgame consists of playing forever with seemingly the same item rolls, boring socketable "gems", and transmutation which seems to do nothing of note in particular. TL2 is the basework for possibly a very interesting title, not to mention how it chokes you with the amount of conent contained in one play through of the main campaign.

This year made me realize how much ARPGs really never pluck quite the right note for me. Three high profile releases, also don't forget games like Path of Exile, which is free to play, and not one with the ability to show much thought about how a player can find an addicting and filling meta-game. Maybe someone will mod one into TL2, but then again it'd be like having to buy ARMA 2 just to play Day Z. What was the worth of making the main game if everyone one else is coming for a different attration?

Eh, at least D3 and TL2 brought new ideas in various ways. Can't blame a guy for trying I suppose.
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