Torchlight II

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LongKnight Jul 18, 2013 @ 3:50pm
metascore is the worst and most corrupt gaming review site ever!
do they have a team of 5 year olds who scores the reviews or are they just filling their pockets with handouts?
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Jedo Jul 18, 2013 @ 4:22pm 
I think that can be said with a lot of reviews. Honestly in this day and age the best resource for formin an opinion of a game is through the hordes of LP videos on youtube. I know they can be spoiler heavy but there are a few LP reviewers out there who are light on spoilers.
Last edited by Jedo; Jul 18, 2013 @ 4:23pm
DinoBaresark Jul 18, 2013 @ 4:30pm 
Probably right, bro. Best way to review a game is talk to your mates, or buy it and play!
Powder!Keg!Fred! Jul 18, 2013 @ 4:38pm 
Most reviews you have to take with a grain of salt anyway. The final review will always be yours to make since you are the one that will actually be buying the game anyway.

Personally, only 30-40% of my decision on a game is based on external reviewers, the rest is based on my personaly experience by watching YouTube/Twitch vids or Demos/Betas or if a friend already has the game, I can try out the game through them.
LongKnight Jul 18, 2013 @ 4:52pm 
Originally posted by Powder!Keg!Fred!:
Most reviews you have to take with a grain of salt anyway. The final review will always be yours to make since you are the one that will actually be buying the game anyway.

Personally, only 30-40% of my decision on a game is based on external reviewers, the rest is based on my personaly experience by watching YouTube/Twitch vids or Demos/Betas or if a friend already has the game, I can try out the game through them.

yeah your right but you got to admit when you see a game with a high metascore on steam it does make it look alot more attractive and puts the thought in your mind that this game must be good as you can tell i didnt buy this game beause it just looks like dota 2
TheMasterBlaster Jul 18, 2013 @ 4:54pm 
i use metacritic and read the user reviews, not the promotional reviews. the user reviews are often very different from the promo reviews. the yellow user reviews generally have a more fair opinion of the good and bad aspects of a product.
Badfinger Jul 18, 2013 @ 5:10pm 
Torchlight II gets a 88, seems about right. It's a diablo style game, DOTA2 I got into the beta and played about 5 mins and left, not a fair comparison at all.

This is probably the best game possible for just $5. [pre-ordered myself, so paid 3x]
Metacritic is strange, agreed, Defiance is a pretty good game and it's 65/100 critics, 6.6 user scored, go figure, never use just one site for deciding.... of course if the MC is 50 or worse, it's almost always right, to avoid it.

What I hate about metacritic reviews, so many are based on the first day or two of release, and a lot of games are not great that day, and need patched, I wish they'd delete the intial release week reviews once the game is say 2 months old, then we'd have a better idea of the game.
Diablo III has the most obnoxious Critics vs. Users spread? Agree, that it was not what it should have been, but 3.8 is a bit ridiculous.

If I see 100/100 by a critic, red flag: D3 got a 100/100, LOL!


Kickz Aug 13, 2013 @ 1:49am 
Originally posted by Longknight:
metascore is the worst and most corrupt gaming review site ever!

do they have a team of 5 year olds who scores the reviews or are they just filling their pockets with handouts?

I'm quite tired of metascores on Steam. Sure, most 90-ish rated games aren't bad but there is also a huge number of games which have a low score which are great TO ME and according to their community hub are great to them too.

Also some games which are awesome in design and play-ability are just not my type of thing but yet they have a high score.

As an example, for me personally, the Fallout games before Fallout 3 were awesome but I did not enjoy Fallout 3 at all and can't agree with a metascore of 91 at all.

The score is pointless without context on what it was based on.
Sure I can go to metascore source site and research but what is the point then of having it on Steam if I need to go to another site for more information and user based ratings!

Steam must add either the metascore user-based ratings as a separate column of allow steam-user based ratings; even as simple as 1-5 stars IN ADDITION to the metascore.

People always argue about haters down-rating a game and so on but that's just rubbish.

People always argue that user reviews are already an aggregate within the metascore rating BUT I need to go to the metascore site to see them instead of being able to see them WITHIN STEAM.

Add them as an extra column please?

The main problem of not having Steam-user based scores is that a lot of games have no metascore but would have a Steam-user based score if it was possible which would help a lot.

Off course, you should not be able to rank a game if you don't own the game.

User rankings could also be based on a a few categories like: play-ability, graphics, story-line, overall experience, etc, etc.... all 1-5 ratings or similar.

I'm not saying metascore are completely pointless but with the huge number of games not having one and not being able to see just the user-based ratings easily from within Steam as well as my personal taste not agreeing with a few of them; I personally find them quite redundant without the correct context on what the score is based on; visible from WITHIN Steam.

Just my 2cents.
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Kickz Aug 13, 2013 @ 1:50am 
Originally posted by TheMasterBlaster:
i use metacritic and read the user reviews, not the promotional reviews. the user reviews are often very different from the promo reviews. the yellow user reviews generally have a more fair opinion of the good and bad aspects of a product.

I would love to see them from within steam in a separate column instead of having to go outside of steam :(
GolovA Aug 13, 2013 @ 7:22am 
I disagree:
Metacritic is a very powerful resource for reviewing.
However, it depends on us as the users to decipher facts from speculations. Now whether "Official" Reviewers get paid for false reviews remains open to scrutiny. But common sense suggests this: Go to Metacritic right now and take a look at the Diablo 3 METASCORE as compared to the USER SCORE. What does that tell you? BAM!
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Coolclouds Aug 14, 2013 @ 4:15am 
Don't put much stock in reviews in the first place. Reviewers are human and therefore biased. It's hard to not let your likes and dislikes affect how you see and judge a game. They might try to make you think this is not case, but it is true with every reviewer because it is true with every human being. Because this bias exists, the review becomes subjective. The best and most reliable way to know if you're going to like a game or not is to actually play the game. I realize this gets expensive fast. The best alternative is a Let's play video from one of the many youtubers who provide this kind of service. These videos are great because they let you see what the game is like for the first hour or so depending on how long the video runs. Sure they might say their opinon of the game throughout the video but so what? You get to see what the game is actually like right off the bat instead of a little clip of 10 seconds of gameplay at SOME point in the game.
Don't pick on metacritic.
Pick on IGN and the rest.
Metacritic just grabs the reviews and gaves out the average points.
It's a usefull tool. Nothing more, Nothing less.

Also it has a big community wich takes care of the User Voting.
LongKnight Aug 14, 2013 @ 9:09am 
Originally posted by Sares:
Don't pick on metacritic.
Pick on IGN and the rest.
Metacritic just grabs the reviews and gaves out the average points.
It's a usefull tool. Nothing more, Nothing less.

Also it has a big community wich takes care of the User Voting.

yeah a big user community that gives a completely different opinion and rating that metascore does which in turn shows just how corrupt and how they are not in touch with the rest of the world
Coe Aug 17, 2013 @ 1:31pm 
Tell me about it. Contacted their support after they wrongfully banned one of my reviews at 5000 characters 1-3 minutes (giving no possibility that they actually read all of it while it also did not go against their ToS or other rules) along with my account after it being posted and got no reply after 3+ weeks. Contacted the BBB in regards to them not actually responding to my query and they replied almost instantly saying "Oh, well, It's our website. We can repress your free speech as much as we want".

As for the users.. Well.. I took the liberty of checking into all the accounts on the website that gave dota 2 a 10/10, praising it as the only perfect game ever made with no faults or deficits whatsoever and I started to see a pattern. http://imgur.com/Eqyeehz

Stay away from that site.
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