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daicon Jun 22, 2013 @ 11:45am
Hidden microtransaction shouldn't be allowed on Storefront
I'm of course refering to the in-game cashshop within this singleplayer game that will sell you bonus items and fluff for Steamwallet funds.

There's no mention of it on the game's storepage,and these items aren't included in the DLC packs sold on the storefront. I think Valve should make this clear to all prospective buyers of any game that features microtransactions hidden until in-game.
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-OVRW- Jellymanisme Jun 22, 2013 @ 1:06pm 
Uhm, no. It's not like the inclusion of OPTIONAL microtransactions removes anything from the game that you paid for. You get the entire game for the price you pay, then you can CHOOSE to spend money in game to buy more items, you are not forced to.
Cereb Jun 22, 2013 @ 1:08pm 
All microtansactions are option Jelly...so glad I read this, thanks Daicon
daicon Jun 22, 2013 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by -OVRW- Jellymanisme:
Uhm, no. It's not like the inclusion of OPTIONAL microtransactions removes anything from the game that you paid for. You get the entire game for the price you pay, then you can CHOOSE to spend money in game to buy more items, you are not forced to.
So you think we don't have the right to know if a singleplayer game we are buying has microtransactions in it or not before buying?

And speak for yourself because it personally subtracts from my experience.
murry christmas Jun 22, 2013 @ 1:40pm 
Originally posted by daicon:
Originally posted by -OVRW- Jellymanisme:
Uhm, no. It's not like the inclusion of OPTIONAL microtransactions removes anything from the game that you paid for. You get the entire game for the price you pay, then you can CHOOSE to spend money in game to buy more items, you are not forced to.
So you think we don't have the right to know if a singleplayer game we are buying has microtransactions in it or not before buying?

And speak for yourself because it personally subtracts from my experience.
Microtransactions are not amazing but still not take anything away from gameplay. you get everything you paid for and if you want more you use microtransactions.
daicon Jun 22, 2013 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by Ragnvald:
]Microtransactions are not amazing but still not take anything away from gameplay. you get everything you paid for and if you want more you use microtransactions.
Sorry but that isn't and never was a valid defense for a singleplayer game hiding its microtransactions until after you've bougth the game.

Please don't try to turn this into an argument of how cosmetics don't affect gameplay, because even that is a bunk argument.
frozen_thumbs Jun 22, 2013 @ 1:50pm 
I guess I read all of this as, the game is playable as it is hot off the shelf if you will, however should one choose to obtain the nice extras, pay us more. Yeah I think microtransactions are BS for paid games. Free games that use this model are obviously a differnet story. It should be made known during the transaction to buy the game IMO.
Xerkis Jun 22, 2013 @ 2:04pm 
All games have DLC these days – that’s all this is. If you are buying a game and think there won’t be something at some point in time that you will be able to pay extra for and add to your game – then you haven’t bought a game in the last 20 years.
I find it very hard to believe that anyone would think a game wouldn’t have something you can pay extra for to add to it. Why is anyone surprised by this?
Like any of the other 1,000s of games out there - either buy the extra "stuff" or don't. Doesn't make any real change to the game - but why the shock when it's common knowledge these days?
daicon Jun 22, 2013 @ 2:05pm 
Originally posted by frozen_thumbs:
I guess I read all of this as, the game is playable as it is hot off the shelf if you will, however should one choose to obtain the nice extras, pay us more. Yeah I think microtransactions are BS for paid games. Free games that use this model are obviously a differnet story. It should be made known during the transaction to buy the game IMO.
Correct.

Even if you buy this singleplayer game and all of the DLC on the storepage, you'll find that the game has hidden microtransaction items within the game asking you to buy them.

I won't get into how underhanded microtrasactions within singleplayer games is, but I merely think all games that do this should have it stated on the storepage.


Originally posted by Xerkis:
All games have DLC these days – that’s all this is. If you are buying a game and think there won’t be something at some point in time that you will be able to pay extra for and add to your game – then you haven’t bought a game in the last 20 years.
I find it very hard to believe that anyone would think a game wouldn’t have something you can pay extra for to add to it. Why is anyone surprised by this?
Like any of the other 1,000s of games out there - either buy the extra "stuff" or don't. Doesn't make any real change to the game - but why the shock when it's common knowledge these days?
But this game has 3 DLC packs on the storepage. No one is surprised about that.

But only after you get in-game do you see that there are ingame items to buy inside a shop in a singleplayer game.

Buyers need to be forewarned on the storepage so they know they are being sold a game with missing features that asks for more money after being bought.
Last edited by daicon; Jun 22, 2013 @ 2:13pm
Mad Brain Jun 22, 2013 @ 2:54pm 
Originally posted by -OVRW- Jellymanisme:
Uhm, no. It's not like the inclusion of OPTIONAL microtransactions removes anything from the game that you paid for. You get the entire game for the price you pay, then you can CHOOSE to spend money in game to buy more items, you are not forced to.
ofc they have been removed from base game. see they build the game and then the coolest/most useful stuff is taken out and put aside as DLC
Last edited by Mad Brain; Jun 22, 2013 @ 2:55pm
Time And Roguelike Dimensions Jun 22, 2013 @ 8:15pm 
Is paradox sending a message out to all developers that they must include microtransaction shops in their games? There's Game of Dwarves, Dungeonland and Showdown Effect doing it. Even EA recently backed down on their statement about all upcoming games featuring microtransactions!
BertHunter Jun 23, 2013 @ 1:15am 
Thanks for the info: Saves me some money!
I would like to have a full game when I decide to buy it; microtransactions in all shape or form are a no-go for me^^
Xerkis Jun 23, 2013 @ 4:57am 
Well, it’s simple – anyone who has an issue with this will never be buying any new games ever again. This is the way the game industry is and has been for a long time now. Anyone really think that a game will be released and then will not capitalize on possible more income from that game by creating and releasing DLCs afterwards?
And if the DLC is distributed either as an external purchase or one from an in-the-game store, it’s all the same thing. It’s just a different way of buying and distributing the DLC.
Perhaps other games are developed and then things removed to place in to future DLC – but this is not the case in aGoD. What you buy IS the full game – everything else is purely added expansion that the game doesn’t need to be enjoyed and is only fluff.
Time And Roguelike Dimensions Jun 23, 2013 @ 6:25am 
Originally posted by Xerkis:
And if the DLC is distributed either as an external purchase or one from an in-the-game store, it’s all the same thing.


It's not the same thing. At least one reason why not is that you can't see the number of DLC and their prices unless you have already bought the game.
PepeLePiew Jun 23, 2013 @ 8:07am 
Just bought it. Saw microtransactions and then this topic... well i'm not buying anymore games from them OR any dlc. Low blow man. When you buy dlc you expect to actually own the WHOLE game.
daicon Jun 23, 2013 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by Xerkis:
Well, it’s simple – anyone who has an issue with this will never be buying any new games ever again. This is the way the game industry is and has been for a long time now. Anyone really think that a game will be released and then will not capitalize on possible more income from that game by creating and releasing DLCs afterwards?
And if the DLC is distributed either as an external purchase or one from an in-the-game store, it’s all the same thing. It’s just a different way of buying and distributing the DLC.
Perhaps other games are developed and then things removed to place in to future DLC – but this is not the case in aGoD. What you buy IS the full game – everything else is purely added expansion that the game doesn’t need to be enjoyed and is only fluff.

Again, try to grasp the discussion. No one is bothered by DLC, they're bothered by HIDDEN DLC that you can only see after you've bought the game.

You can't seem to understand that, or you're a fan trying to deliberately smokescreen the discussion.
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