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Really when it comes down to it, if you don't like it, don't watch it, or make the videos you think should be made yourself.
I totally agree with Raptor on this... SFM was release to spawn creativity on within the TF2 and partially for the Half-Life2 worlds. It was not developed for other game engines, at least not yet. That is why most of the assets incorporated and shipped with SFM are TF2 based.
The movies you see with characters outside these 2 worlds are original content. These are models that have been ported to SFM and are totally outside the realm or intent. Look at the vid based on L4D (1 or 2), Portal 2 and the Dota stuff, these models were not intended to be used with the game engine behind SFM.
The other thing you mention is it was released last June. This is a very complicated program when you dig into it and it is only a Beta version, so there is not much documentation on the aspects of using it and ppl are still tweaking with things to find out what it will do..
Like Raptor says, 'If you don't like it, don't watch it, or make the videos you think should be made yourself.'; and I'll add to that, If you don't know how to do it, Learn like the rest of us are doing now.
But I'm sure there are original stuff in the making, let's just give them time.
Also not every "unoriginal" stuff is bad. There are some pretty funny ones or really well done homages out there. Don't let the badly made/rendered/executed stuff form your judgement. This happens in every other situation when they give the community creative tools to work with.
Would not surprise me one bit for some projects to take as long as a year to complete. Myself, been working on a Transformers short film off and on since October or something.
I believe there are ways to do it with scripts so you can still use the phenomes even on custom models. But i have not bothered with that, i have just been animating their mouths manually which is no problem as long as the model has the the required bones for the mouth, jaw, and lips etc.
One of the downfalls to SFM (as I see it) is that it is propritory to Valve based content, then again it is a Valve tool so why shouldn't it be?
Another problem is that it is focused on an earilier version of the TF2 Game engine and as it is Beta, the flavour of the engine can change without notice (example is the latest update skewed the bone structures of some "original" assets like the Sentry, which skewed mosts projects using them into an unusable state without major re-animation), therefore any asset developed, ported to or used must conform to the flavour of the day.
I think that a lot of animators are waiting for the environment to become more stable. It takes a huge amount of time and resources to animate a movie, edit it, then render and produce it, especially if you're trying to do it yourself or in a small collaboration of friends. I don't think they want to get half way through a project to find that the newest update has skewed their previous efforts.
On top of this, the next time you watch a big time animated feature, stick around for the credits... Count the number of animators, 3D FX artists, prop and character creators, skin artists, etc used in the production... also, it takes them a couple of years to push out an hour and a half movie using production quality software.
Weigh that with what we have and the amount of time we've had SFM at our disposal, I think you will now agree that the stuff that is out there is pretty amazing.
http://youtu.be/dHNZgnNLzTg
The creator may no like them, but they are a good gauge of what we are talking about. the current updated pack of models took 6 months to update. Not make, UPDATE. and the person that did the update is a professional computer artist. now if it takes that long just to update some models. imagine creating, not just the characters, but every piece of furnature, every vehicle, every weapon (if any), etc, fro scratch.
olike I said, it's a matter of how much effort people want to put into it. many are just lazy. or just do straight port from other games with no alterations. (An example would be a recent release of some spiderman models from the recent game. it looks good and has alot of flex, but there is no mouth flex, and three fingers on each hand are fused together, meaning you can't do his signature hand motion. that stuff limits what you can do with it)
Pte Jack, one thing about what you had to say though. Valve has said one of the things they wanted when offering this to the public is to give people a tool to make their own films. there is even a part in the wiki where they say you are even allowed to make for-profit productions with it provided you don't use any valve asset. the tool itself it open for free use for anyone and however they want to use it.
True enough, they have said that, but what I am trying to say is that the tool, in its current form, is geared to TF2, Not the original HL, HL2 (although most work except for maps), L4D, L4D2, Portal2, Dota2, any of the mods, etc without some modification to the models contained in the GCFs or VPKs. Nor is it geared to take any other asset that is not in the Valve Model Format. Most of the characters, maps or props seen in clips that are outside the TF2 and limited HL2 environments have been tweaked for TF2 or Garry's Mod in game play or outright edited to work in SFM (adding HDR to maps for instance).
Anyone that wants to import or create assets for SFM from outside the Valve environment will have to be proficient with some sort of 3D editing software, know how to extract other game content or create their character in that program (adding bones, any flex or animation they need for that character), export to Valve SMD format (or if lucky enough to have a plug in that works to DMX format) then use the proper tools to convert the assets to the proper DMX or MDL format used by SFM.
The SFM tool is developing, more and more features are being documented and ppl are start to write additions for it (SFMPhys is an excellent example of this.) So who can say where the tool will go when it comes out of Beta... and who knows how long they are going to take to produce version 1.0??
Also, I'm not allowed to say too much about it at this point but I'm currently working full-time on a 20 minute SFM short film featuring all original content and characters which will be finished by the end of Sept.
Besides my own work there's the project Elements: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZVm-Rb-WRo
and Dome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIxVjaWiXyo
Sparkle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-zGwANYiw0
and of course Zach Scott is always working on some truly original creations: http://www.youtube.com/user/Ronaldthecock?feature=watch
And others, so the stuff is out there, you just need to a look a little harder to find it. But yes I agree, there should be more 'original' videos but honestly what can you expect with free software that ships with a whole bunch of easy to use content? Most people aren't going to go out of their to make life difficult for themselves, only a few of us are crazy enough for that. ;)
But, PalmliX said it himself... It is now April, he's probably been working on his project since Jan or Feb (or earilier) and the 20 minute feature is not due out until September. And as he also said, there are some pretty unique and high quality pieces out there already, you just have to tweak your search for them.
The basic message I was trying to relay here was... "It's new, people are still tweaking it and learning the ropes (if they can find them). It's going to take time for the original concepts to flow... Be Patient!! They're Coming!!! " I don't think Pixar or Dreamworks got their first animated movies out within 6 months of getting their tools either!!
By all means continue to make SFM videos with Valve characters, but make your OWN plots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBamIRB91f8