Static Brown Oct 8, 2013 @ 8:00pm
Manipulators Disappear /sadface
I was working on an animation to try something new and decided to use casual (hwm) Medic. His phonemes, visemes and emotion tabs were gone, so I went into the element viewr and added them to the preset groupr, right? No biggie. Everything was fine, I thought, then at some point I noticed that the 3D manipuators were gone during animation mode. Whether using the motion editor or graph editor, they no longer stay visible while actually animating in real time. Only when I stop playback in motion editor, will they reappear. Does anyone have any idea what the hell I did? I think I broke it!

I verified cache, found 32 items were messed up. Restarted...still the same problem. I imported other models to see if it was just medic, same problem! I went back to a big animation that I was just working on yesterday, same problem! I didnt know what else to do so I just uninstalled and am reinstalling. Any idea whats going on with this thing?

EDIT: I should add that I can still manipulate the model during real time animation, I just cant actually see the manipulators during that time anymore!

Thanks guys!
Last edited by Static Brown; Oct 8, 2013 @ 8:20pm
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R234 Oct 8, 2013 @ 10:47pm 
If by real time animation you mean puppeteering (hold manipulator, press space, move mouse, press space again), the manipulator is supposed to go invisible. It always was like that as far as I know.
Static Brown Oct 9, 2013 @ 3:49pm 
Hmmm...thats what I mean, but it was always visible for me. Thank you for responding! This is the weirdest thing!
Pte Jack Oct 10, 2013 @ 1:57pm 
I think I am experiencing the same problem now on my laptop. I select a modulator and if it is the move manipulator the cyan box appears but not the move arms, if I select the rotate manipulator only the small white box shows up and not the rotation gimble.

I'm trying to work through it to see if I can find out why this is happening. (Anyone know of an update lately??)
raptornx01 (banned) Oct 10, 2013 @ 2:30pm 
not that I noticed.
Static Brown Oct 11, 2013 @ 5:37pm 
Originally posted by Pte Jack:
I think I am experiencing the same problem now on my laptop. I select a modulator and if it is the move manipulator the cyan box appears but not the move arms, if I select the rotate manipulator only the small white box shows up and not the rotation gimble.

I'm trying to work through it to see if I can find out why this is happening. (Anyone know of an update lately??)

There was an update to source sdk. Thats the only one I noticed but I'm not sure if it applies.
Pte Jack Oct 11, 2013 @ 5:56pm 
Did a refresh on my local cache and it seems to have fixed the problem, but not for the session I was working in when the problem occurred. There must be a switch somewhere I guess.
Static Brown Oct 11, 2013 @ 7:22pm 
Originally posted by Pte Jack:
Did a refresh on my local cache and it seems to have fixed the problem, but not for the session I was working in when the problem occurred. There must be a switch somewhere I guess.

How do you refresh your local cache? By verifying or another method?
Pte Jack Oct 11, 2013 @ 9:23pm 
Steam Client, Library, All Softwares, right click SFM, Properties, Local Files Tab, Verify intergrity of Application cache. Let the process completely finish...
Static Brown Oct 12, 2013 @ 8:03am 
Originally posted by Pte Jack:
Steam Client, Library, All Softwares, right click SFM, Properties, Local Files Tab, Verify intergrity of Application cache. Let the process completely finish...

Yes, that's what I thought you meant. Thanks Pte Jack! I did try this before and it didnt work for me, but its all good. I guess this is the best time ti learn the graph editor anyways LOL!. Thanks for your help. Just gave you a follow on YouTube XD
Pte Jack Oct 12, 2013 @ 9:44am 
Thanks Static Brown. Like I say, I think there may be a switch or a console command that has been fowled up somehow. I know the the manipulators appear properly in any new session I create, but the one where they disappeared, well, I can't see the assist tools for the manipulator.

Static Brown Oct 12, 2013 @ 10:27am 
Yea, I hear you and I thinkn you're right. I'll just work with the graph editor for now.
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