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plumbcrazy Nov 4, 2012 @ 11:27am
give game for free already
This game needs to be given away for free already. As you can see by the chats people are trading it away. Hardly any body playing it now. Its a fun game but who wants to play with low peps and bots. Maybe if somebody in that heads ND can reply and we might think about other games you might put out there. Show you give a crap maybe.
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balek jae Nov 4, 2012 @ 11:49am 
show they give a crap? this has been one of the most devoted team of devs i have ever seen.
plumbcrazy Nov 4, 2012 @ 11:52am 
the game is losing peps. Maybe they do give a crap. We will see what they do with the game.
shadow word: hot or dot? Nov 4, 2012 @ 12:34pm 
How many times do the ones with brains have to repeat this?

There's just NOT enough content for ND to become free-to-play.

And as much as an elitist I was/am against microtransaction, pay-to-win games, I DO want ND to become F2P with lots of wonderful custom content and customisation. I'd love for Nuclear Dawn to be TF2's "serious, future-modern tactical shooter" counterpart with its own version of hats and weapons and tools and ribbons and such. I WANT to show my support to the underdog Dutch devs who have created one of the biggest masterpieces in Source gaming.

(Partly because I want the game to be so successful that IW considers adding vehicles, but agenda-pushing is for another day)

So you reply "then tell IW to make custom content or community-source custom content to make it official!" But the sad truth is that even though ND looks [and plays; YMMV on this bit] like a big-name shooter, IW is an indie company.

IW. Is. Indie.

That means Beenen and friends only have so many coders and modelers (to be exact, one coder on ND: good old ducky psychonic) they can invest in a game that already isn't generating enough returns.

If anything, their commitment to not going F2P-microtransaction is the biggest sign IW is still dedicated to developing Nuclear Dawn. They have faith in the game and us, the fanbase, in sustaining interest in ND and slowly but surely bringing ND up to its original grand vision (or at least close to it). Not a lot of companies do anymore. Definitely not EA, not Tripwire, and most surprisingly enough, not Valve.
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plumbcrazy Nov 4, 2012 @ 12:39pm 
Well i got my moneys worth for as long as the game lasted. Thanks had fun playing it. Sounds like nothing will develope.
plumbcrazy Nov 4, 2012 @ 9:44pm 
Originally posted by ξx.sΔNguiŅATe_`∆:
How many times do the ones with brains have to repeat this?

There's just NOT enough content for ND to become free-to-play.

And as much as an elitist I was/am against microtransaction, pay-to-win games, I DO want ND to become F2P with lots of wonderful custom content and customisation. I'd love for Nuclear Dawn to be TF2's "serious, future-modern tactical shooter" counterpart with its own version of hats and weapons and tools and ribbons and such. I WANT to show my support to the underdog Dutch devs who have created one of the biggest masterpieces in Source gaming.

(Partly because I want the game to be so successful that IW considers adding vehicles, but agenda-pushing is for another day)

So you reply "then tell IW to make custom content or community-source custom content to make it official!" But the sad truth is that even though ND looks [and plays; YMMV on this bit] like a big-name shooter, IW is an indie company.

IW. Is. Indie.

That means Beenen and friends only have so many coders and modelers (to be exact, one coder on ND: good old ducky psychonic) they can invest in a game that already isn't generating enough returns.

If anything, their commitment to not going F2P-microtransaction is the biggest sign IW is still dedicated to developing Nuclear Dawn. They have faith in the game and us, the fanbase, in sustaining interest in ND and slowly but surely bringing ND up to its original grand vision (or at least close to it). Not a lot of companies do anymore. Definitely not EA, not Tripwire, and most surprisingly enough, not Valve.
plumbcrazy Nov 4, 2012 @ 9:52pm 
if you put your head in sand that is what can see. Do not want to see paying customers happy = bad for you dicky. love the game hate the jack as a pops. HeHeHe F U
shadow word: hot or dot? Nov 5, 2012 @ 11:07am 
Oh, and what is it you do for Nuclear Dawn? You don't author plugins, you don't make maps, you don't draft new ideas for gameplay. I know folks who don't even play Nuclear Dawn anymore and still make content for it.

You're in no position to say that people who actually make [content for] the game don't care when you don't do anything yourself.
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plumbcrazy Nov 5, 2012 @ 11:12am 
i dont know you. You dont know me. What a turd.
shadow word: hot or dot? Nov 5, 2012 @ 12:13pm 
You're right. My apologies - I should not have resorted to ad hominem when it's understandable you do care about the game a lot. Sadly, it doesn't help to answer the passion with claims of "IW doesn't care about ND!" when there are clearly worse examples (EA-DICE, Valve, etc). IW seriously does care about ND. I have reason to believe that if they were at the end of wits and didn't give two craps about making a profit anymore and wanted to make their very loyal fanbase happy, they would just give it their all on ND. That's not the case, though. IW is small, profits are smaller, and they can only do so much.

Be patient. The only way to show our love for this game is, quite simply, to play it, to nurture it while IW can't. It's a dark situation for one the brightest games of 2011 but it's the truth.
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plumbcrazy Nov 5, 2012 @ 12:35pm 
i do understand the point they need to make money. I really do not know how much they made. Just want to see more peps in the game is all. I have not slamed ND or anybody. i never said IW doesnt care about ND. What else is there to say the game is almost dead. Peps are trading it away :(
shadow word: hot or dot? Nov 5, 2012 @ 1:15pm 
Yeah, it's basically become the "penny" of Steam trading commerce. Hopefully more people trading means more people playing, though.
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plumbcrazy Nov 5, 2012 @ 2:50pm 
good point. I saw all the peps trading it away and was like holly crap.
TheHoff  Nov 5, 2012 @ 11:16pm 
I don't like arguing between ND fans :'(
please stop.

On a more serious tone, I totally understand both of you guys point of view. The game IS great but there's just not enough people playing despite how awesome it is. In our views of people who played the game 100 hours and more, that's how we see it.

Sadly, I've came to think ND is that kind of game which requires a minimum IQ and mature behavior to play and enjoy to it's full extent.

It's also a sure fact it's not publicized enough.

We have to keep in mind how the real world works. IW guys need money to keep on making games and ND is practically their only title giving them income (sadly, I doubt games like Caveman bob or rComplex managed to pierce through the Iphone app market).

I'd like the game to be free so it gets played WORLDWIDE BY ALL THE PEOPLE OF ALL THE NATIONS (that possess a decent PC) but I don't want that to the point of removing the devs the bread out of their mouth.

And a game is as dead as the people who keep playing and enjoying it. I admit I am getting bored of the current maps and game modes (after +550 hours), but I still enjoy challenging games and a good teamwork experience.

You can be sure I'll try out their next game Dark Matter and that I'll "share the good news" on November 9th by buying a ND 4-pack. And I'm gonna play that new TDM mode when it gets out like there's no tomorrow (despite being a week prior to exams).

Note: I think it's the first time I see Juicebox using an ad hominem on someone :P
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­­­­­­Τhe Spooky Cheese Wheel Nov 9, 2012 @ 11:19am 
Even for free, I can't foresee anyone bothering with this game. Games getting traded wildly doesn't mean the game will be played. Bad games get traded wildly all the time.

Nuclear dawn doesn't even appear in steam stats. http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
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balek jae Nov 9, 2012 @ 12:23pm 
Originally posted by The Rolling Cheese:
Even for free, I can't foresee anyone bothering with this game. Games getting traded wildly doesn't mean the game will be played. Bad games get traded wildly all the time.

Nuclear dawn doesn't even appear in steam stats. http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

weird that you have an opinion if it's good or bad, you have zero playtime in it.
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