Far Cry

Far Cry

Mercenary Mar 11, 2018 @ 3:04pm
This Game Is Really Frustrating
This is my first playthrough. I'm playing on challenging, I have got to level 14, put about 10 hours into the game so far. Haven't used any cheats but make full use of the quicksaving and quickloading console command. A lot of this game is based on memorization of where all the guards are after dying 10 times from you don't know what.

I regret playing it on challenging and should've went for medium difficulty, but the fact remains the game gives you too many cheap deaths. Invisible mutants, or giant mutants that a rocket launcher doesn't do any damage against, a guard with a rocket launcher you can't spot, a sniper that kills you in one shot, or a small trident that one hit kills you at full health.

And the stealth is pretty pointless as enemies can spot you miles away even when crouching. Unless you go prone through the jungle the entire time. Not to mention that most enemies take almost a full clip to kill, unless you headshot them. But it is not easy to do at long range due to the very noticeable scope/zoom sway.
You pretty much need to have your Thermal vision enabled at all times to stand half a chance, and once it runs out you just find somewhere to hide until it recharges.

I admire the graphics and the wide open levels that Crytek designed. I think this game was a technical masterpiece for its time. Just like Crysis 1.
I also like the setting, on a far away tropical island full of ruthless mercenaries and rogue mutants. It may be a typical 90's/early 2000's B type movie setting, but in 2018 with all these pseudo realisitc settings with gameplay that is anything but realistic (such as Call of Duty), it's an amusing and welcome change.

But in terms of actual gameplay, the game is too frustrating to enjoy.
I will complete this game, no matter how long it takes or how many times I die, but if it wasn't for the quicksaving, I wouldn't have much of a chance, at least on challenging. I understand this is an old school fps in the truest sense of the word that heavily discourages rambo style rampages, but still. Too many deaths feel "cheap".
Last edited by Mercenary; Mar 11, 2018 @ 9:43pm
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mydah42 Mar 11, 2018 @ 8:20pm 
I just posted something on Reddit which I think you will appreciate.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/83r460/how_far_cry_made_me_question_my_existence/

I'm not great at FPS games but even on Easy I was still unable to complete Far Cry.
Mercenary Mar 11, 2018 @ 8:59pm 
Originally posted by mydah42:
I just posted something on Reddit which I think you will appreciate.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/83r460/how_far_cry_made_me_question_my_existence/

I'm not great at FPS games but even on Easy I was still unable to complete Far Cry.
I read your post, pretty deep stuff man.
I would say when it comes to fps games I am above average. How much above average depends on the game and how much enjoyment I get from playing it. The more I play it, the better I get.
I wanted to beat this game because I beat all the other Far Crys in the series (minus the Xbox exclusive games, which I actually ordered Far Cry Instinct Predator from Ebay and is in the mail), and anticipation for Far Cry 5, I wanted to finally play this game, which has been sitting for years in my Steam library never played.

Though I admire the graphics and levels (especially considering this is from 2004), and like the feel of the guns, I am not enjoying this game, it is too frustrating because of the super hard "cheating" AI. But the reason I play it and want to beat it, as I think you and a lot of other people do, is we don't want such a thing as a video game to "best" us.

I play games for the challenge as well, and get fun from it. Though I am fully aware there are better things to challenge me that will be useful to self improvement. I try to do these things. I hope doing these challenging useful things will gradually become fun like the fun I have from video games. But for whatever reason, playing Far Cry 1 and wanting to punch my monitor gives me a lot more fun than going and pumping some heavy weights or studying grammar of so and so language. I hope that will change in the future. I'm 25.

But I personally doubt it. I think it's the knowledge that you can be doing something better with your time is what makes that activity (in this case, video games) so fun. That's where developing strong discipline and willpower kicks in.

One thing though, is playing video games, does help develop some of your reflexes and problem solving skills that can be used in real life. Still, past a certain point, there absolutely is more useful things you can be doing with your time.

Though I would give Far Cry 1 at least a week's rest, maybe more, and than go back and try to beat the last level legit. Or it will always be on your mind :)

Use console commands (by pressing ~)
\save_game "Whatever you want to call the save without quotes"
and
\load_game "Whatever you want to call the save without quotes"
You kill one enemy without taking little to no damage and using little ammo, save the game. You kill another enemy like this, save the game. Rinse and repeat.
It will save you a lot of time. Saving a lot of time lowers your fustration levels and makes you more focused ;)

That is not technically cheating, as many games, including Far Cry 2 and Skyrim, have this quick saving feature anytime without needing to use the console. Or at least a much better checkpoint system like Call of Duty or Far Cry 3/4.

And btw, Far Cry 2 is an amazing game. These 10 year old graphics maxed out can hold their head high with most Triple A games released today (just like Crysis 1). The game has a steep learning curve. And the story and missions start of a little bit slow. These two factors make many people turn away from the game within the first 3-7 hours and miss out on what an amazing game it really is. I would recommend to play it on Easy for you. While it is nowhere near as hard as Far Cry 1 (I beat Far Cry 2 on Normal), it still offers a lot more challenge than any Call of Duty/Battlefield or even Far Cry 3/4/Primal ever will.
Last edited by Mercenary; Mar 11, 2018 @ 9:50pm
Pure & Rustic Mar 12, 2018 @ 8:58am 
Here is what you should try if the game is to hard to finish: Install 64-bit version.
I did it because i find steam ver. 1.4 was harder then the game i played back in 2004/05.
Couldnt find the dvd so I bought it from steam. I beat it on all difficulties back then, but couldnt beat the last 2 missions in vulcano: trigens and then take down Doyle.

Then i find the 64-bit ver. 1.32 in the guides and installed it. Slightly better textures and more locations in campaign. I dind'nt rename bin 32 and 64, just have them both and sendt a icon to desctop and play them seperatly. I can't use steam overlay in 64-bit, but i don't care. I use 64 bit when im outdoors and the last 5-6 levels.
This time i beat the game, all the way up to the last "Realistic" and took down Doyle. I see that when "AI Auto balance" is enebled in steam version, the Mercs do much better, like they are learning as you move on in the game. So I disabled this option. (After you press "Campaign" you see this option.

I have one profile for each difficulty (5) and now i can go in, chose a profile (difficulty) I want to play and pick a mission in any level.
That gives me an option to have 5 differnt settings too. Never use only the default profile.

I have installed 2 mods. Iron sight and Quick save (F5 and F9). I use iron sight most of the game and then Quick save in the last levels. I can Quick save even if Ironsight is enebled, by using the console. Cant use both mods at the same time.
The profiles is used in both ver 1.4 and 1.32 64-bit and the same with the mods. All saves are the same in both versions.

There is a lot of videos in video section you can watch to see how others are doing in almost any level. Take a look and maybe you can get some ideas to improve.

This 64-bit version works on both Nvidia and AMD.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=290196752&searchtext=64-bit
Last edited by Pure & Rustic; Mar 12, 2018 @ 8:59am
Bisküvi Mar 12, 2018 @ 9:16am 
i miss this game
Mercenary Mar 12, 2018 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by Pure & Rustic:
Here is what you should try if the game is to hard to finish: Install 64-bit version.
I did it because i find steam ver. 1.4 was harder then the game i played back in 2004/05.
Couldnt find the dvd so I bought it from steam. I beat it on all difficulties back then, but couldnt beat the last 2 missions in vulcano: trigens and then take down Doyle.

Then i find the 64-bit ver. 1.32 in the guides and installed it. Slightly better textures and more locations in campaign. I dind'nt rename bin 32 and 64, just have them both and sendt a icon to desctop and play them seperatly. I can't use steam overlay in 64-bit, but i don't care. I use 64 bit when im outdoors and the last 5-6 levels.
This time i beat the game, all the way up to the last "Realistic" and took down Doyle. I see that when "AI Auto balance" is enebled in steam version, the Mercs do much better, like they are learning as you move on in the game. So I disabled this option. (After you press "Campaign" you see this option.

I have one profile for each difficulty (5) and now i can go in, chose a profile (difficulty) I want to play and pick a mission in any level.
That gives me an option to have 5 differnt settings too. Never use only the default profile.

I have installed 2 mods. Iron sight and Quick save (F5 and F9). I use iron sight most of the game and then Quick save in the last levels. I can Quick save even if Ironsight is enebled, by using the console. Cant use both mods at the same time.
The profiles is used in both ver 1.4 and 1.32 64-bit and the same with the mods. All saves are the same in both versions.

There is a lot of videos in video section you can watch to see how others are doing in almost any level. Take a look and maybe you can get some ideas to improve.

This 64-bit version works on both Nvidia and AMD.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=290196752&searchtext=64-bit
What's different between the 64 bit version and Steam v1.4?
Mercenary Mar 12, 2018 @ 4:11pm 
Just beat this game on Challenging difficulty in about 16 hours, without so called "cheats", but did make very liberal use of the quicksave and quickload, as well as using the chair to keep one of the blast doors open so I could access the armory till all ammo and medkits where exhausted.

Never playing this game again lol. Cost me too much fustration and stress.
Pure & Rustic Mar 13, 2018 @ 5:40am 
The difference between Steam ver 1.4 and the 64-bit ver.1.32: The last one has an "exclusive content update" patch which adds better texture/smoke/dust/fire/explosions and some extra in-game areas, and its more stable.
Last edited by Pure & Rustic; Mar 13, 2018 @ 5:50am
Mercenary Mar 13, 2018 @ 3:50pm 
Originally posted by Pure & Rustic:
The difference between Steam ver 1.4 and the 64-bit ver.1.32: The last one has an "exclusive content update" patch which adds better texture/smoke/dust/fire/explosions and some extra in-game areas, and its more stable.
What about the game difficulty?
Racuch Zawodowiec Mar 18, 2018 @ 2:12am 
Originally posted by MotoBoy:
Originally posted by Pure & Rustic:
The difference between Steam ver 1.4 and the 64-bit ver.1.32: The last one has an "exclusive content update" patch which adds better texture/smoke/dust/fire/explosions and some extra in-game areas, and its more stable.
What about the game difficulty?
The game difficulty in 1.32 is how it should be. Patch 1.4 messes the ability to see thru foliage and tents, thus making npc cheating and breaking the game. You simply don't want to play far cry fresh after just steam downloading it.
Mercenary Mar 18, 2018 @ 2:56am 
Originally posted by Racuch Zawodowiec:
Originally posted by MotoBoy:
What about the game difficulty?
The game difficulty in 1.32 is how it should be. Patch 1.4 messes the ability to see thru foliage and tents, thus making npc cheating and breaking the game. You simply don't want to play far cry fresh after just steam downloading it.
lol I did play fresh after steam downloading, most fustratring 16 hours I ever spent in a video game lol
Cheerios320 Mar 24, 2018 @ 12:22pm 
I always hated that games in the early 2000's were so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard its stupi and just makes you hate the games.
Pure & Rustic Mar 24, 2018 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by MotoBoy:
Originally posted by Racuch Zawodowiec:
The game difficulty in 1.32 is how it should be. Patch 1.4 messes the ability to see thru foliage and tents, thus making npc cheating and breaking the game. You simply don't want to play far cry fresh after just steam downloading it.
lol I did play fresh after steam downloading, most fustratring 16 hours I ever spent in a video game lol
The steam version is broken, and so hard to beat. I realised this after just min on playing. Thats why i installed the 64-bit ver.1.32 and then i see the good old game. I played through all difficulties to the end and beat the last 2 in vulcano, I couldnt do in the original on dvd. I think i played the old game on patch 1.31, but im not sure. The first play through was without patches and was horrible, with all kind of gliches and chrashes. Didnt have internet were i lived at that time, but i got the patches by using internet on work and DL them and saved on CD. After i installed the patches, the game was so much more fun, stable and it was up to me to find the way to the end.
AltEnding Mar 25, 2018 @ 11:23am 
This is one of the most punishing and unforgiving FPSs of all time.

There is a lot of memorisation to progressing. Stealth can be used but you can only really fire a few shots then you have to sprint through the bushes to a completely different place and lie low. It does work. You can also see the invisible ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ by usuing the night vision googles or heat vision...whatever they are. However, it doesn't make it much easier.

It is a good game though and given the length it is a bargin.
I'm pretty good at FPS games, but this is probably one of the most difficult FPS games I've played in my entire life...

The f*cking last mission is a NIGHTMARE. You literally start the mission surrounded by an army of mutants with rockets; it's almost f*cking impossible to beat on the hardest difficulty.

The only way I beat this game way back when was to play as if my life depended on it. Soo many attempts after dying like 1000x.
Last edited by California DMV Gaming; Mar 25, 2018 @ 7:26pm
Racuch Zawodowiec Mar 26, 2018 @ 3:47am 
Originally posted by Battlesaurus Rex:
I'm pretty good at FPS games, but this is probably one of the most difficult FPS games I've played in my entire life...

The f*cking last mission is a NIGHTMARE. You literally start the mission surrounded by an army of mutants with rockets; it's almost f*cking impossible to beat on the hardest difficulty.

The only way I beat this game way back when was to play as if my life depended on it. Soo many attempts after dying like 1000x.
Two tricks in volcano missions are: shoot the gonads of Krieger with gun(weakest point) and before mutants, abuse chair trick to block final door from closing, so you can go back to medikits and ammo during fight.
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