OK, so there have been a lot of new custom weapon additions to the Killing Floor Workshop lately, a lot added by a person by the name of LLIePLLIeHb, listed as the creator alongside ExZeT and Dr._Killjoy. They have added 7 weapons so far to the Workshop, and they have a link in the release description of each submission leading to a thread in the Tripwire Interactive Forums with a dozen more of their “releases”. They r getting quite a bit of props and kudos from everyone on the weapons that they made, only one problem though, NONE of these weapons were made by them. Their AK47, Dragunov, Auto Shotgun Protecta, AUG A1, L96 releases in the Workshop were all custom models that were made by the Counter Strike Source community. These 5 weapons (and others that they have released in the link they provide) were made from scratch by various different authors on a site called Gamebanana.com
. These weapons were modeled, textured, and animated by other people. So basically, they went to Gamebanana.com
and downloaded a bunch of OTHER peoples submissions, and ported them from CSS to Killing Floor. In each submission though, they put in the descriptions "New Weapon from Russian modders Operation Y”. They do mention Twinke Masta in 2 of their submissions and Millenia in 1 (there were more people actually involved in these weapons that were left out btw, a lot more, these r just the ones they mention) at the very bottom in the credits, but follows it by Operation Y listed as well, with no explanation as to who did what. This is quite misleading in my opinion, considering that the authors of these weapons did all the REAL work creating this custom content, they r the ones responsible for EVERYTHING u see and hear with these ingame weapons, yet get listed as if they just helped a little, not to mention the authors that didnt get mentioned at all. And I highly doubt that the original authors even know about these guys re-releasing their work in another game let alone gave them permission to use any of their work for themselves to claim, considering that I left a comment about the original authors and it was conveniently deleted within 30 minutes. Either way, credits were only given on 2 of the weapons so far. They didnt give credits for the Dragunov, the Protecta, or the L96. And Im pretty sure that the AS VAL and VSS Vintorez were weapons created by others or ported by others as well, I just cant find their submissions. Like I said, they have already “released” over a dozen more “custom weapons” for download on that thread and judging by the picture on the first page, there will be plenty more released…and all of it r things that other people created.
Here is the link for all the weapons that they have submitted as their own work on the Killng Floor Workshophttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198051339418/myworkshopfiles/?1250
Here r some links showing where they took these releases from, and where the real creators r actually mentioned for their work involved - keep in mind these links r probably not the EXACT SAME submissions that they downloaded as some of these weapons have been re-released several times with different attachments, scopes, textures, animations, sounds, etc., but u can clearly see that they r the same base models and textures used...
Here is the link to the thread on the Tripwire Forums that they provide with all of their other “releases” named “Weapons and Custom Characters from the Russian modders” http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=76860
U can clearly see on the first page a picture with a bunch of weapons that they r “working” on. EVERY weapon in that picture can be found at gamebanana. I know for a FACT that 80% of those weapons in the picture on the first page are custom created models submitted in the CSS skins section on gamebanana. Even the weapons from other games (the STALKER weapons for example) just so happen to be the same weapon submissions made on gamebanana by OTHER people that ported them from other games, so they didnt even do that much. Here r some more links showing where they took some of these releases as well, and showing the real authors – again, keep in mind that these r probably not the EXACT SAME submissions that he got these from.
Thompson – the rear sight is removed in his submission but its the same modelhttp://css.gamebanana.com/skins/30571
These r just the ones that I could quickly find without spending hours on that that website. I have personally seen and used all the other models in that picture though, and I got all of them from gamenbanana. If someone were to look at all the submissions made, they could find every weapon there.
I have done some modeling, texturing, animating, and porting myself (nothing major or public)…and I can assure u that the original authors have spent countless hours and countless days creating these custom weapons. They spent a lot of time researching these weapons, creating the models from scratch, tweaking them, dealing with all the errors that comes with this kind of thing, texturing, compiling, rigging, animating, scripting, etc. I think that they deserve to be recognized by the gaming community for their hard work that we all love to see in games. I think its BS that these guys r passing this all off as their own original work and the work of “Operation Y”, when all they did was rip off other peoples submissions by doing a simple port job and a little bit of scripting. Honestly, it wouldnt be that big of a deal if they would just simple give the credits to the original authors, but they dont. Honestly, I think they should have gotten permission from the original authors to re-release this stuff in another game (which once again, I highly doubt they did or they wouldnt be deleting my comments on their submissions stating the original authors). I think that these submissions should AT LEAST be fixed, naming ALL the authors involved in creating these custom weapons and a brief description of their role in it…or they should just be taken off the Workshop, because it is quite unfair for these guys and their team to be getting all the credit and recognition for work that they had a very little part in…just my opinion though.