Robert Cotoros Jan 27, 2013 @ 10:40am
Has anyone had just incredible bad luck on almost every single run?
I have about 140 runs. I have not defeated mom even once. I'm not much of a good player, but my luck too has been horrible. I watch gameplay videos on the internet and i see people frequently getting very nice builds with technology, flight, or spectral tears and very big damage and range. In treasure rooms I usually get very bad spacebar items like lemon mishap, telepathy for dummies, doctor's remote, teleport, the bean and others. I also get Holy water alot which is almost useless. I get the ocasinal brohter bobby or sister maggy. Bosses drop ocassional hp ups but mostrly it's boxes. I rarely get a tears up upgrade. The only way I get half decent powerups is if I make deals with the devil. Gambling has rarerly helped. I constantly end up at the last level and I either die there killed by one of those jumping hoppers that also fire projectiles or a laser/worm guy. or I get killed by mom because it's just impossible to kill her without any powerups.
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├┼┼┼┤ Jan 27, 2013 @ 10:47am 
The learning curve can be quite slow if you get bad luck, keep trying.

An special note are the pills. I can beat mom and so mostly everytime but like 95% of the pills I find on EVERY run are negative..
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Dave2point0 Jan 27, 2013 @ 12:00pm 
I've had a lot of bad luck. I finally had a pretty good run last and was finally able to beat her. Now I just need to do that 12 more times and I'll be good. Ugh... This game is the most frustrating, unforgiving, hate filling game I've ever played. But darn if it's not fun and addictive. I've noticed I'm slowly getting better at getting through rooms with minimal to no loss of life without the need of tech...guess it's just practice. Just stick with it. I've put in about 10 hours into this game so far and am just now starting to be able to somewhat hold my own. It still puts me in a fetal position every now and then though.
├┼┼┼┤ Jan 27, 2013 @ 1:49pm 
Dave, I was uber frustrated until I beat her once. After that point, I beat her 3 more times in the next 5 runs I've done!

It's just patience, practice and knowing the items, how to deal with the machines, WHEN to use ITEMS (this is by far my most important achievement) and so.

NEVER use PILLS <--- this is the key to complete the game. The positive effects are not really needed since the normal items give them already, and the negative ones WILL ruin your run.
Sodapoop Jan 27, 2013 @ 8:02pm 
dont listen to him, the pills can save ur life. i was almost dead in the isaac boss and then i use my ??? pill and BANG i get my 12 hearts.
ThePewPewBBQ Jan 27, 2013 @ 10:16pm 
Hey, I know there are a ton of videos out there... but I show 'EVERY' run on my channel if you're interested in seeing how to deal with good and BAD luck. Most videos out there are JUST good runs so it's a bit less realistic as far as learning to beat the game.

If you're interested, hit up http://www.youtube.com/user/teleteeps

Sample of last couple runs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrX90tAjMX0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWZuk1k0CX0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr3TwduAu3A

Good luck and I wish you mom-domination in the very near future (:

Peace ^
├┼┼┼┤ Jan 28, 2013 @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by Soda pls:
dont listen to him, the pills can save ur life. i was almost dead in the isaac boss and then i use my ??? pill and BANG i get my 12 hearts.

For one of those you'll get 20 hearts down, 20 tears down, 20 luck down, etc.

Pills are ♥♥♥♥ unless you're Cain (his lucky foot makes u get 100% positive pills).
Naftak Jan 28, 2013 @ 6:37pm 
Originally posted by void *pointer:
NEVER use PILLS <--- this is the key to complete the game.

This is rubbish advice.
BossGalaga Jan 28, 2013 @ 7:36pm 
Originally posted by Naftak:
Originally posted by void *pointer:
NEVER use PILLS <--- this is the key to complete the game.

This is rubbish advice.

Actually, it's great advice. I get screwed over by pills 80% of the time. If you want to beat the game, unless you have a PHD you might want to consider skipping the pills.
Robert Cotoros Jan 29, 2013 @ 12:36am 
well it depends on how much are you willing to risk it. pills have gotten me out of a jam before. Thanks for the great advice everyone. I did defeat mom yesterday. And I beat mom's heart today. I'm still getting pretty bad items even though my skill is getting better. I hope theres'nothing wrong with my game.
Krova Steel Jan 29, 2013 @ 12:41am 
OMG. Half heart, beat the mom from half health without getting hit.... finally GOOD LUCK
MotaboY Jan 29, 2013 @ 1:31am 
Most of what the game may offer, you can bend to your liking. The only thing that might predetermine the outcome, or just make it way harder, is the first couple of floors. You can try restarting the game if you don't get a decent item on the first floor. If you still continue to fail consistently then you're lacking something.

What helped me the most is watching streams, but also reading up on the wiki.

In the end though, even if you have amassed a lot of knowledge it won't do you good if you lack proper judgement and dodging skills. I know the game is random and has a ton of variables, but you just gotta bend em to your will! With D6, or otherwise :)

Also, mom is super easy... you don't need any powerups at all. Just 2-3 speed.
SetoKaiba Feb 7, 2013 @ 8:08pm 
Look up NorthernLion, you'l see how to use bad items to your advantage
Optimus Prime Minister Feb 7, 2013 @ 10:20pm 
Originally posted by Robert Cotoros:
I have about 140 runs. I have not defeated mom even once. I'm not much of a good player, but my luck too has been horrible. I watch gameplay videos on the internet and i see people frequently getting very nice builds with technology, flight, or spectral tears and very big damage and range. In treasure rooms I usually get very bad spacebar items like lemon mishap, telepathy for dummies, doctor's remote, teleport, the bean and others. I also get Holy water alot which is almost useless. I get the ocasinal brohter bobby or sister maggy. Bosses drop ocassional hp ups but mostrly it's boxes. I rarely get a tears up upgrade. The only way I get half decent powerups is if I make deals with the devil. Gambling has rarerly helped. I constantly end up at the last level and I either die there killed by one of those jumping hoppers that also fire projectiles or a laser/worm guy. or I get killed by mom because it's just impossible to kill her without any powerups.
Bad luck? Play Cain !
Capnmaf Feb 8, 2013 @ 6:48am 
Pills have honestly always been 50/50 for me. The benefits of getting a couple of good pills can really get your momentum up, but it's always a bummer to get a health/speed down. If you see an unknown pill, you should always ask "With my current state, could I risk this?". In my opinion, the answer 90% of the time is yes.

The Binding of Isaac is all about risk/reward. You will never get the rewards if you don't take the risks. Look through some of the discussions and forums, some people say to play recklessly. To follow the advice of absolutely avoiding pills is probably not for your benefit, but can be depending on the situation.
skyleaf Feb 9, 2013 @ 8:29am 
i know how u feel, pretty much the same thing happens with me. i only have 22 hours so far, still havent beat mom either lol. the farthest ive gotten was past the depths. then again some of the stuff in the wrath of the lamb dlc makes it even harder heh. still love it tho and i wont give up!
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