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AndyN. @pixelatedpost  [developer] Apr 3 @ 11:14am
*SUPER SPOILER ALERT* Story Discussion because OMG!
I know the one truth to Monaco's story, do you?
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Annexed Apr 3 @ 12:48pm 
The one truth being that there is no truth? Or that we can't handle the truth? :)
AndyN. @pixelatedpost  [developer] Apr 3 @ 1:31pm 
There is indeed a truth that explains what really happened!
Jiik Apr 3 @ 3:37pm 
I didnt really understand it....I've been confused since I hit space on the first mission, although i've done all of it I know there's a secret. Can someone explain?
AndyN. @pixelatedpost  [developer] Apr 3 @ 4:37pm 
Originally posted by Mr. Red:
I didnt really understand it....I've been confused since I hit space on the first mission, although i've done all of it I know there's a secret. Can someone explain?

Are you SURE you want me to spill allll the SECRETS?
Jiik Apr 3 @ 4:42pm 
Originally posted by AndyN. @pixelatedpost:
Originally posted by Mr. Red:
I didnt really understand it....I've been confused since I hit space on the first mission, although i've done all of it I know there's a secret. Can someone explain?

Are you SURE you want me to spill allll the SECRETS?
No, just the story, I'll investigate the secret. :P
TARmeZAN Apr 4 @ 8:25am 
oo oo, tell me tell me
ChevyNoel Apr 4 @ 10:11am 
I have all the levels, but I didn't read the storyline for all of them. The order is Ch1, Ch2 (not Identity), Ch3, Identity, Ch4; is that correct?
The Awsome Gamer {TAG} Apr 4 @ 10:36am 
the gentleman was behind all of this and ruined the lives of all the criminals?
Kexikus Apr 4 @ 12:14pm 
Originally posted by ChevyNoel:
I have all the levels, but I didn't read the storyline for all of them. The order is Ch1, Ch2 (not Identity), Ch3, Identity, Ch4; is that correct?
I think thats the correct order.

Some spoilers ahead:
There was one thing that kept me wondering in Chapter 4, which has a great story by the way, and that's the fact that there are eight thieves again. Identity showed us that there are in fact only four of them and they lied about their numbers.
My guess is that Voltaire still thinks that there are eight thieves (four who escaped from prison in Identity and those four the Pickpocket lied about) and that's why they appear again. And we don't know how many thieves he meets in the end but it's possible that there are only four. I'd really like to know if that's how it's supposed to be and I'm very curious about that secret and the one truth about Monaco.
Please, tell me :D
AndyN. @pixelatedpost  [developer] Apr 4 @ 12:30pm 
You are pretty spot on Kexikus. ChevyNoel was right about the order of the events.
kmac3063 Apr 4 @ 12:39pm 
WOOOOW
Kexikus Apr 4 @ 1:11pm 
Woohoo :D
I guess you'll have to name Monaco 2 "Paris" instead ;)
Free Market Apr 5 @ 7:40am 
Yeah, by the end of 'Fin' I was completely vacillating between four and eight thieves. I'm leaning towards four right now, but here's my reasoning for each.

8 thieves:
Would allow for 4 thieves to complete the missions in Fin, with one spare to be Candide.
Would explain the three thieves ratting when caught. My take in this interpretation is that the mole met the four 'newbie' thieves in prison and drew them into a plan to rescue the four classic thieves. But rather than being strung along as the locksmith implies, they all legitimately were in on the later heists. The three + cleaner ratted when they got left behind after Hotel Monaco, but partly because they want to use Voltaire to track down the Gent and steal their fair share. Locksmith sort of tells truth, Pickpocket fingers gent entirely (hedging bets if they can't escape), and Lookout doesn't reveal anything additional about the thieves (their arrests should all be on the record) but piques Voltaire's interest with some clues. Then when Voltaire is heading to Interpol, the newbie four escape (using some of the tricks they picked up along the way), cleaner impersonates Candide, and Voltaire chases down the classic four assuming that they were the ones to escape.
Doesn't explain why only four thieves are revealed in the Fin ending's dialogue. Which is inconvenient, but not insurmountable.

4 thieves:
It's harder to explain not-tying-up one thief as Candide, but maybe the trick is that Voltaire and Candide are both on the scene just as the Fin events happen (rather than Voltaire arriving moments too late), but Candide sneaks off to be one of the thieves temporarily.
Otherwise, I'd say it's likely that the early heists were coverups for their pre-campaign careers (explained by a mix of pickpocket and locksmith stories, given there are no other thieves to rescue), and the latter half were greed inspired as locksmith suggests. Lookout's explanation is actually combining two stories for each thief, only one of which is going to be 'on the record' from their pre-campaign capture. Then, they escape and go to clean up loose ends, with Voltaire and Candide in tow. Perhaps even Voltaire is an unwitting part of the plan? They can get him on the scene of every crime following the break out, and perhaps use the pickpocket's interrogation record to imply he was the mastermind.
The elegant thing about the four thieves explanation is that there are four revealed thieves in the Fin ending's dialogue. No reason there can't be more, but it is tempting to simplify.

Really, what I was expecting (until the reveal from the last mission in Fin) was that Voltaire was the spy at Interpol, the newbie four really were framed, and the classic four+Voltaire escape off into the sunset. Maybe I should make a PVP map with dialogue where Voltaire rejoins the classic four, but cleaner/Candide rats them out and it's a showdown to steal the whole take.
Quinterfell Apr 5 @ 8:56am 
I am fairly sure there are only 4. The Gentlemen and his crew needed to use the other identities to get back into the prison to recover the last of his posessions, as they would never have been able to reach them from the outside. I do not think Candide is one of the thieves.
NoRepro  [developer] Apr 5 @ 10:16am 
There's another possibility... if you read through Origins there's a clue.
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