Silverdraggin May 15, 2013 @ 7:39pm
What does the "score" mean? (Not rank)
I play this game pretty often with my father. I understand the ELO system for the ranking system, but in the profile area of the lobby there is also a "score." What in the world is that and what affects it?
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Leeroy May 15, 2013 @ 10:48pm 
I think that's the average score you get per game.
- Leeroy
[HyperX] DAC | cazaron May 15, 2013 @ 11:14pm 
Originally posted by Leeroy:
I think that's the average score you get per game.
- Leeroy
I wish... mine's... 1198 at the moment. That... would be great. Yours is 1205...

I believe your Score is calculated from http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/play/ranking/ but i could be very wrong.
Leeroy May 15, 2013 @ 11:19pm 
Originally posted by DAC | cazaron:
Originally posted by Leeroy:
I think that's the average score you get per game.
- Leeroy
I wish... mine's... 1198 at the moment. That... would be great. Yours is 1205...

I believe your Score is calculated from http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/play/ranking/ but i could be very wrong.

It's without the decimal. 1198 would be 119.8. 1205 would be 120.5 etc.
- Leeroy.
[HyperX] DAC | cazaron May 16, 2013 @ 12:01am 
Makes sense... Can't say i know, OP. Sorry.
Silverdraggin May 16, 2013 @ 5:27pm 
That's fine. We'll just go with that cause I honestly can't think of any other answer.
EricB@DoW  [developer] May 17, 2013 @ 2:03pm 
DAC is right : the ELO computations are done on the score that you see in your profile. Every new account is created with a score of 1500. Then each game with the "Ranked" option turned on will change that value according to your winning or loosing.

In your profile, you only see the overall score which shows the ELO score you get for all the games you have played. But we also keep track of your ELO score for either 2 players or more players games, and for each map (any number of players)

You can see the scores per map here :
http://www.daysofwonder.com/scores/
(change the Game dropdown menu to see the other ELO scores and ranks)

Enjoy :)
[HyperX] DAC | cazaron May 17, 2013 @ 2:25pm 
Originally posted by EricB@DoW:
DAC is right : the ELO computations are done on the score that you see in your profile. Every new account is created with a score of 1500. Then each game with the "Ranked" option turned on will change that value according to your winning or loosing.

In your profile, you only see the overall score which shows the ELO score you get for all the games you have played. But we also keep track of your ELO score for either 2 players or more players games, and for each map (any number of players)

You can see the scores per map here :
http://www.daysofwonder.com/scores/
(change the Game dropdown menu to see the other ELO scores and ranks)

Enjoy :)
So, does that mean your Ranking, as it were, is calculated to be the same or different as your score? Is ranking simply 'where you are on the leaderboard', ie, 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc on ELO?
Leeroy May 17, 2013 @ 9:56pm 
Originally posted by EricB@DoW:
DAC is right : the ELO computations are done on the score that you see in your profile. Every new account is created with a score of 1500. Then each game with the "Ranked" option turned on will change that value according to your winning or loosing.

In your profile, you only see the overall score which shows the ELO score you get for all the games you have played. But we also keep track of your ELO score for either 2 players or more players games, and for each map (any number of players)

You can see the scores per map here :
http://www.daysofwonder.com/scores/
(change the Game dropdown menu to see the other ELO scores and ranks)

Enjoy :)

Oh, I see now. I misunderstood the ranking as the ELO score, which is unnecessarily puzzling, since you could be separated by 1000 ranks and the score at stake would be massive. That makes a lot of sense, thanks EricB!
adunner66 Jan 13 @ 9:24am 
Originally posted by EricB@DoW:
DAC is right : the ELO computations are done on the score that you see in your profile. Every new account is created with a score of 1500. Then each game with the "Ranked" option turned on will change that value according to your winning or loosing.

In your profile, you only see the overall score which shows the ELO score you get for all the games you have played. But we also keep track of your ELO score for either 2 players or more players games, and for each map (any number of players)

You can see the scores per map here :
http://www.daysofwonder.com/scores/
(change the Game dropdown menu to see the other ELO scores and ranks)

Enjoy :)

I won a 2 player match and went from 1399 to 1380...I admit i didn't look at my opponents original points total, but is that possible with this scoring system...that is, to drop points even with a win?
Leeroy Jan 13 @ 5:12pm 
Originally posted by adunner66:
I won a 2 player match and went from 1399 to 1380...I admit i didn't look at my opponents original points total, but is that possible with this scoring system...that is, to drop points even with a win?

Yes, I think so. The ELO, I think (so don't take it as 100% truth), gives you points based on the skill of the other player. So, if you lose to a player with a much lower ELO score than you, you will lose a ton of points, because the scoring system expects you to win. But if you only just win against the same opponent, you will still lose points because you're expected to beat that opponent by a lot. I think I read this somewhere, so if this is true, the moral of the story is to beat everyone by heaps to avoid losing points haha
[HyperX] DAC | cazaron Jan 13 @ 6:20pm 
The idea of ELO is that after many, many games, every single player is where they 'should' be.
You can lose ELO points if you win against a much lower ranked opponent.
The points loss is exacerbated if you are provisional too, as the algorithm works more dramatically with wins and losses.

If you read through the website link above, you can see the algorithm and thus determine how it would be possible to lose points, even with a win.
Don't worry about rank too much, it doesn't really affect anything.
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