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Mr.SoloDumbo Jun 18, 2013 @ 7:04am
Will the AI detection abilities be toned down.
The AI seems to be able to make visual too easily at long ranges. Hopefully it is just an Alpha issue. As a sniper with gihillie suit in concealed location after first shot you are instantly discovered
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Duckish Jun 25, 2013 @ 11:30pm 
Weird, my AI can run in circles and look for me on the mountains, even in the Alpha version
Mac81 Jun 26, 2013 @ 4:37am 
You have to lower their level in game options difficulty label, but the impression I got is that the game is to be considered playable only in the Regular level, once you pass to Veteran the AI level get really high to a level that you are not facing umans anymore but ciborg. Example is simple you shoot rounds and grenades to them even in numeric superiority and they are not even disturbed about it, with a single shot they kill you even when the distance is around 200 meters, no sign of round dispersion or imprecision afected by movement. Again my opinion is that ArmA without ACE at the end become unplayable and frustrating, really poor product!
Theo Hardmeier Jun 26, 2013 @ 5:17am 
Originally posted by Mac81:
You have to lower their level in game options difficulty label, but the impression I got is that the game is to be considered playable only in the Regular level, once you pass to Veteran the AI level get really high to a level that you are not facing umans anymore but ciborg. Example is simple you shoot rounds and grenades to them even in numeric superiority and they are not even disturbed about it, with a single shot they kill you even when the distance is around 200 meters, no sign of round dispersion or imprecision afected by movement. Again my opinion is that ArmA without ACE at the end become unplayable and frustrating, really poor product!

Well you set the ai on veteran they will be "veteran".

You have to remember its not all about just who shoots first and how accurate, the environment, time of day, type of weaponry at your disposal and tactics all have a part and are far more important on the harder difficulties.

Sometimes shooting the ai as soon as you see it is the worst possible tactic on veteran and higher difficulty settings.
In fact, its the dumbest thing to do.
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Mac81 Jun 26, 2013 @ 2:13pm 
Originally posted by Theo Hardmeier:
Originally posted by Mac81:
You have to lower their level in game options difficulty label, but the impression I got is that the game is to be considered playable only in the Regular level, once you pass to Veteran the AI level get really high to a level that you are not facing umans anymore but ciborg. Example is simple you shoot rounds and grenades to them even in numeric superiority and they are not even disturbed about it, with a single shot they kill you even when the distance is around 200 meters, no sign of round dispersion or imprecision afected by movement. Again my opinion is that ArmA without ACE at the end become unplayable and frustrating, really poor product!

Well you set the ai on veteran they will be "veteran".

You have to remember its not all about just who shoots first and how accurate, the environment, time of day, type of weaponry at your disposal and tactics all have a part and are far more important on the harder difficulties.

Sometimes shooting the ai as soon as you see it is the worst possible tactic on veteran and higher difficulty settings.
In fact, its the dumbest thing to do.

Who talked about shooting to enemy AI as first resource? My complain about the Veteran level comes after a continuos try of a mission developing new tactics every time and trying to interact with the friendly AI without obtaining results, mostly because the way the AI works out some situation only bring them to death and sometimes even creating tactics like flanking or cross fire is useless due to an unrealist high level of awareness of the enemy, plus the fact that again in this game vegetation don't produce clutter and this is really a big issue when you have to deal with high level AI in dense vegetation.

Its not only me saying this, there's a lot of people inside this community that from previous ArmA complain about, and this is the reason why developers like Dev heaven decided to create a mod to mitigate this problem (the ACE), thank god for this.

So if you really think that higher AI level in vanilla A3 means more tactics and immersion for pro player, I deduce you are brand new in this game and you may investigate things more deeply before spread wisdom as you have done some lines above.

PANDA Jun 27, 2013 @ 3:47pm 
By Veteran you mean 'aim botting' AIs?
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Theo Hardmeier Jun 28, 2013 @ 6:27am 
Originally posted by Mac81:
Originally posted by Theo Hardmeier:

Well you set the ai on veteran they will be "veteran".

You have to remember its not all about just who shoots first and how accurate, the environment, time of day, type of weaponry at your disposal and tactics all have a part and are far more important on the harder difficulties.

Sometimes shooting the ai as soon as you see it is the worst possible tactic on veteran and higher difficulty settings.
In fact, its the dumbest thing to do.

Who talked about shooting to enemy AI as first resource? My complain about the Veteran level comes after a continuos try of a mission developing new tactics every time and trying to interact with the friendly AI without obtaining results, mostly because the way the AI works out some situation only bring them to death and sometimes even creating tactics like flanking or cross fire is useless due to an unrealist high level of awareness of the enemy, plus the fact that again in this game vegetation don't produce clutter and this is really a big issue when you have to deal with high level AI in dense vegetation.

Its not only me saying this, there's a lot of people inside this community that from previous ArmA complain about, and this is the reason why developers like Dev heaven decided to create a mod to mitigate this problem (the ACE), thank god for this.

So if you really think that higher AI level in vanilla A3 means more tactics and immersion for pro player, I deduce you are brand new in this game and you may investigate things more deeply before spread wisdom as you have done some lines above.

Ive investigated it well enough.
30 hours in arma 3 and nearly 700 hours in arma 2 and im glad the ai awareness seems higher in aa3.

The people who complain just dont like the difficulty thats why they stick to ace, not a gameplay problem and never was.

Last edited by Theo Hardmeier; Jun 28, 2013 @ 6:38am
Mac81 Jun 28, 2013 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by Theo Hardmeier:
Originally posted by Mac81:

Who talked about shooting to enemy AI as first resource? My complain about the Veteran level comes after a continuos try of a mission developing new tactics every time and trying to interact with the friendly AI without obtaining results, mostly because the way the AI works out some situation only bring them to death and sometimes even creating tactics like flanking or cross fire is useless due to an unrealist high level of awareness of the enemy, plus the fact that again in this game vegetation don't produce clutter and this is really a big issue when you have to deal with high level AI in dense vegetation.

Its not only me saying this, there's a lot of people inside this community that from previous ArmA complain about, and this is the reason why developers like Dev heaven decided to create a mod to mitigate this problem (the ACE), thank god for this.

So if you really think that higher AI level in vanilla A3 means more tactics and immersion for pro player, I deduce you are brand new in this game and you may investigate things more deeply before spread wisdom as you have done some lines above.

Ive investigated it well enough.
30 hours in arma 3 and nearly 700 hours in arma 2 and im glad the ai awareness seems higher in aa3.

The people who complain just dont like the difficulty thats why they stick to ace, not a gameplay problem and never was.


Well almost all the community switched to ACE! Maybe it could be a sign...
Last edited by Mac81; Jun 28, 2013 @ 12:59pm
Mac81 Jun 28, 2013 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by Kai:
By Veteran you mean 'aim botting' AIs?

Yes, exactly, but that's my personal impression. Maybe I'm too much used to play the easy way with the ACE!!!
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