Arma 3
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ArmA is no longer a milsim
BI calling this a milsim is incorrect, ArmA is now a tactical shooter.
You cant simulate the future 20 years on with every unit, weapon and vehicle either fictional or very much a rl prototype which probably will never be common in any army.

Thats what has made the ArmA series so amazing... the fact you could jump in the notorious Mi24, the praised M1A1 or shoot the legendary AK-47... every vehicle and weapon is widely used and known by all even the greenest of people.

Really hope BI make some kinda official DLC or mod (for owners of A2) and port/mod ArmA2 content to ArmA3.
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add1 19.6.2013 klo 7.47 
i do not agree with that. it is military simulation. even if it was pure sci-fi, it can be simulation. arma 3 near future doesn't change a thing about simulation. it's not like it simulates transformers or something unreal.
specially that tactical shooter lebel. so if it is not in present day, but in near future, it suddenly becomes tactical shooter? doesn't make sense to me, sorry. you can call red river or brothers in arms tactical shooter. arma 3 is simulation, and that's genre, that can't be changed because it's setting is in near future.
chernarus is fictional too, so now it is not army simulation driven by that logic.
add1 19.6.2013 klo 7.48 
and i too hope they import complete arma 2 content in arma 3. there was some speculation about that, hope idea will somehow come to bi's ear :D
arma 2 was/is epic game.
I would wait for the beta/released game before i judge. most of the stuff is not in the game yet
especially all that the op mentioned :)
Yeah definitely like to see the ArmA2 content in the game or the ArmA3 maps in ArmA 2. It is non the less still a mili-sim though even if it is more futuristic. What bugs me the most is that the new maps do not have 2 (normal sized) airbases like Takistan has, Takistan map is perfect. The airbase on Stratis is to big to defend (requires way to much players/AI) and I believe Altis will also have 1 giant airbase.
jeff 19.6.2013 klo 8.31 
By the way, all vehicles and weapons in this game are inspired by those which are being used today. When 2030 comes, this'll look pretty much up to date.
Arma 3 isn't a mil-sim anymore. Is a game about ninjas.

Ninjas play free...
add1 19.6.2013 klo 9.42 
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Yeah definitely like to see the ArmA2 content in the game or the ArmA3 maps in ArmA 2. It is non the less still a mili-sim though even if it is more futuristic. What bugs me the most is that the new maps do not have 2 (normal sized) airbases like Takistan has, Takistan map is perfect. The airbase on Stratis is to big to defend (requires way to much players/AI) and I believe Altis will also have 1 giant airbase.
i'm sure there will be no maps from arma 3 in arma 2, in fact i think we'll se no more content for arma 2. it's arma iii time :D just hope it will be intergrated in arma 3 in future, as dlc at least.
Isn't and has always been arma about the mods and addons? The community will deliver tons of new content (as in the past ArmA games) and I am sure there will be tons of stuff set in "todays warfare".
white 19.6.2013 klo 10.32 
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i do not agree with that. it is military simulation. even if it was pure sci-fi, it can be simulation. arma 3 near future doesn't change a thing about simulation. it's not like it simulates transformers or something unreal.
specially that tactical shooter lebel. so if it is not in present day, but in near future, it suddenly becomes tactical shooter? doesn't make sense to me, sorry. you can call red river or brothers in arms tactical shooter. arma 3 is simulation, and that's genre, that can't be changed because it's setting is in near future.
chernarus is fictional too, so now it is not army simulation driven by that logic.

BI developer "neokika" on the forum:

"Nop, it's a game, with simulation elements. VBS is a simulator."

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?157066-Serious-injuries-(graphic)-gore-violence


ArmA 2 cover:

http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/box/4/8/1/952481_111047_back.jpg

to me the cover is a lie and i could list several reasons for it, but just take the word of an ArmA developer there, should be enough.

and btw simulation is imitating something that exists, if you create imaginary futuristic stuff (not the case in ArmA 3) you are not simulating anything.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on white; 19.6.2013 klo 10.44
When A.C.E. mod is released all those things will be taken care of :)
white lähetti viestin:
and btw simulation is imitating something that exists, if you create imaginary futuristic stuff (not the case in ArmA 3) you are not simulating anything.
bullets exist in real life. the game simulates bullets. also rockets. and mortars. and grenades.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on whiskers; 19.6.2013 klo 12.52
white 19.6.2013 klo 13.52 
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white lähetti viestin:
and btw simulation is imitating something that exists, if you create imaginary futuristic stuff (not the case in ArmA 3) you are not simulating anything.
bullets exist in real life. the game simulates bullets. also rockets. and mortars. and grenades.

so does GTA.
HesH 19.6.2013 klo 14.59 
i honestly dont know how you can say that its in alpha your commenting on a test build of a game when its 100% finished then pass judgement
76 19.6.2013 klo 17.51 
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What bugs me the most is that the new maps do not have 2 (normal sized) airbases like Takistan has, Takistan map is perfect. The airbase on Stratis is to big to defend (requires way to much players/AI) and I believe Altis will also have 1 giant airbase.

Cause BI have and will always design their game for coop (theres a million examples but a simple one is A2 grass... then theres crappy character animations and movement which makes pvp difficult, most map designs are in noway catering for pvp etc etc)


tomkilla lähetti viestin:
Isn't and has always been arma about the mods and addons? The community will deliver tons of new content (as in the past ArmA games) and I am sure there will be tons of stuff set in "todays warfare".

And mods/addons are ArmAs saviour but would be nice if it was official so it doesn't fracture the community like mods do.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on 76; 19.6.2013 klo 17.54
76 19.6.2013 klo 18.20 
So you don't know what a Mi24 or M1A1 is but you can tell me that the weapons/vehicles in A3 are real.... sorry but I call BS.
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