Prototype

Prototype

Game crash
I have tried many workarounds to make this game work and it doesn't, to me it seems broken and there is no fix.

What's happening is , when I first start the game , it begins to load , asks for new game or to continue; doesn't matter which I pick or what difficulty I choose , as soon as the game begins to load it crashes back to desktop. That includes if I click on a new slot for a new game.

PC Specs:
1 x Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070
Asrock x79 Fatal1ty Champion socket LGA 2011
Intel Core i7 4930K Hex core Ivy Bridge-E
32gb Gskill RipjawZ 1600mhz


Any help would be appreciated , as I really would like to think this isn't a waste of money ... But I fear that it was , which is a shame , because the game looks really cool and I really do want to play it!
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Doom Gael Jan 29, 2017 @ 1:17pm 
I haven't run into this issue before, but here is a web page that has a list of known bugs and how to fix them (including the one you've experienced):

http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Prototype

If none of these work, try this method. It fixed the "black screen on start-up" which I was experiencing and it might fix your problem as well:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=209857549
Last edited by Doom Gael; Jan 29, 2017 @ 1:17pm
jodipheonix.ttv Jan 29, 2017 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by Gavwav:
I haven't run into this issue before, but here is a web page that has a list of known bugs and how to fix them (including the one you've experienced):

http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Prototype

If none of these work, try this method. It fixed the "black screen on start-up" which I was experiencing and it might fix your problem as well:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=209857549


Thanks!!
I really appreciate the help!

My problem is I can get in , all the way to the main menu and even try loading a saved game ( from the very start since I can't seem to actually get out of main menu when game begins to load even when starting a new game. )

I tried the fixed .dll file , still have same issue -
As for the known issues and the fixes for those , the one that seems to apply to me is to go into BIOS and turn off hyperthreadding ...
I have over 600 games , I'm not going to dumb down my system for 1 that chooses not to work.

I know how to do the said task , I just don't feel I should have to because a game that should be able to be played on my pc doesn't want to work- it is broken. Developers don't want to fix this problem , even though I've come to find a heap of people with the same problem , not just myself.
Shame too really , I bought the game because it looks awesome.
jodipheonix.ttv Jan 29, 2017 @ 4:11pm 
I should mention , because it doesn't seem I've stated before.... I can get as far as the loading screen before it crashes....

Start>New/saved>Mode>load game> CRASH
Last edited by jodipheonix.ttv; Jan 29, 2017 @ 4:12pm
YamaKami Mar 8, 2017 @ 1:59am 
Originally posted by ~.~FE~.~ jodipheonix:
Originally posted by Gavwav:
I haven't run into this issue before, but here is a web page that has a list of known bugs and how to fix them (including the one you've experienced):

http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Prototype

If none of these work, try this method. It fixed the "black screen on start-up" which I was experiencing and it might fix your problem as well:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=209857549


Thanks!!
I really appreciate the help!

My problem is I can get in , all the way to the main menu and even try loading a saved game ( from the very start since I can't seem to actually get out of main menu when game begins to load even when starting a new game. )

I tried the fixed .dll file , still have same issue -
As for the known issues and the fixes for those , the one that seems to apply to me is to go into BIOS and turn off hyperthreadding ...
I have over 600 games , I'm not going to dumb down my system for 1 that chooses not to work.

I know how to do the said task , I just don't feel I should have to because a game that should be able to be played on my pc doesn't want to work- it is broken. Developers don't want to fix this problem , even though I've come to find a heap of people with the same problem , not just myself.
Shame too really , I bought the game because it looks awesome.

I have the exact same issue. I tired a shed load of trouble shooting already. So when I am home later today I will try this resolution fix next. Either way this game is getting a bad review because this is total bull:shit: (specs on my profile if anyone thinks that is the case, I assure you it is not lol) This might be my 1st refunded game ever at this rate....
jodipheonix.ttv Mar 8, 2017 @ 2:19am 
Originally posted by YamaKami:
Originally posted by ~.~FE~.~ jodipheonix:


Thanks!!
I really appreciate the help!

My problem is I can get in , all the way to the main menu and even try loading a saved game ( from the very start since I can't seem to actually get out of main menu when game begins to load even when starting a new game. )

I tried the fixed .dll file , still have same issue -
As for the known issues and the fixes for those , the one that seems to apply to me is to go into BIOS and turn off hyperthreadding ...
I have over 600 games , I'm not going to dumb down my system for 1 that chooses not to work.

I know how to do the said task , I just don't feel I should have to because a game that should be able to be played on my pc doesn't want to work- it is broken. Developers don't want to fix this problem , even though I've come to find a heap of people with the same problem , not just myself.
Shame too really , I bought the game because it looks awesome.

I have the exact same issue. I tired a shed load of trouble shooting already. So when I am home later today I will try this resolution fix next. Either way this game is getting a bad review because this is total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: (specs on my profile if anyone thinks that is the case, I assure you it is not lol) This might be my 1st refunded game ever at this rate....


I left a negative review for this game and someone got MAJOR butt-hurt so I edited it and mentioned their butt-hurt.

I shouldn't have to " dumb down " my computer by lowering the hyper thread in bios in order to play a game. That's silly.
The hyper threading is the only troubleshooting / problem solver I haven't tried , however , I revert back to my original comment of - why should I dumb down my computer to play a game ?

I've tried all the other suggestions , and each have failed.
I hope you have better luck than I do. I just wish the developers would stop worrying about collecting a buck and try fixing the problem for everyone to play instead of just those using toasters.
YamaKami Mar 12, 2017 @ 3:26pm 
Yea left a negative review got 2 down votes right away. Even the sequel is broken. Officially the 1st and second refund ever for me. What a sad excuse for a port.

Edit: I upvoted your review, tipped the scale to 5/9 in your favor. Side note Nice CPU, I should know I have the same one myself lol.
Last edited by YamaKami; Mar 12, 2017 @ 3:28pm
jodipheonix.ttv Mar 13, 2017 @ 2:06am 
Originally posted by YamaKami:
Yea left a negative review got 2 down votes right away. Even the sequel is broken. Officially the 1st and second refund ever for me. What a sad excuse for a port.

Edit: I upvoted your review, tipped the scale to 5/9 in your favor. Side note Nice CPU, I should know I have the same one myself lol.


Thank you , yeah , it's a good CPU :steamhappy:
KieSeyHow Jul 12, 2017 @ 9:17pm 
Okay, after MUCH testing, and great amounts of research, I have collated the useful info for this annoying crash.

If you have more than 8 "logical" cores in total (this means physical cores PLUS Hyper-threading cores AND you are using a 64b version of Windows (7, 8, 8.1, or 10), then you have two options. Either run the Prototype game directly with a custom shortcut, OR, run Steam itself with the custom shortcut. I will explain the Steam version, and you should be able ot figure out the other one easily.

BONUS: this tweak actually fixed startup crashes on a few other old classic games also! older games don't run any faster on more than the first 8 logical cores anyhow. Four cores with hyperthreading gives you 8 logical cores. By limiting the main Steam Launcher itself with a custom shortcut, all other Steam assets inherit the same settings which greatly inproves compantibility with older games. So, let's start...

--> Start by making a NEW shortcut on the desktop, and browsing to Steam with the "create shortcut" widget. right-click -> New -> Shortcut -> then click "browse" and go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe , then select the main "Steam.exe" program (ignore the others) and click "OK".

--> Now, right-click that NEW shortcut and select "Properties" from the mouse context menu.
--> In the box marked "Target" replace
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe"
with the following that matches your OS:
Win7 and 8.1: C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /C start /affinity 0xff C:\PROGRA~2\STEAM\STEAM.EXE
Win10: cmd /C start "steam" /affinity 0xff "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe"


--> Now, in the box marked "Start In" replace
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\
with:
Win7 and 8.1: C:\PROGRA~2\STEAM\
Win10: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam"
--> Now click on []
--> On Win7 and 8,1 you will see the steam icon change to a simple black box. On Win10 the Steam icon stays the same. Your custom Steam shortcut is now actually pointing to the Windows Command Processor (CMD.exe) instead of Steam itself (remember you edited it).

The REASON you are use SHORT DOS names for Win7 and 8.1 is because of how the CMD processor syntax requires no spaces in file or folder names. Windows 10 removed that restriction, and needs a slightly different syntax to work correctly. Remember the differences in case you need that in the future for something else.

You can do this for each annoying game, but I found it much easier to just make a second custom shortcut for SteamOldGames instead. ;)

--> Launch Steam with your custom shortcut, then start the Prototype game from inside the Steam library.

--> When you get into the game, FIRST go to the sound settings and change the "latency" to "32ms", click "SAVE" then "BACK" then exit the game.

--> Now, open your audio properties for your sound card. Change the advanced audio properties, on your "default" "playback device", to 44khz instead of 48, 96, or whatever it says. This addresses the stuttering sounds and crashing that may happen in MANY old games because of an incompatibility between how sounds are buffered in newer 64bit systems, compared to older 32bit systems the devs used years ago. It's basically a compatibility tweak. You are not capable of noticing anyhow, unless you have alien hearing. (perfect human hearing is only about 12bit raw)

Use this custom Steam shortcut to play older classic games to greatly reduce crashing. It seemed to fix several games that always crashed on start-up or after playing a few minutes.

If you want to play your latest modern games, just exit your custom Steam and launch it the normal way. You probably wont need to as all my games seem to run perfectly fine limited to 8 logical cores instead of the 24 cores my system has. I could not tell the difference at all.

Prototype ran insanely fast, like 200FPS after this. Now, I am going to reinstall some other old games I had given up on and try those also!

IM me on Skype or Hangouts, and if worst comes to worst, I might be able to help you using Teamviewer if you are completely confused, and I have time.

Special thanks to Warmaniac_209 with his help in testing and research on Windows 10 systems!
Last edited by KieSeyHow; Jul 20, 2017 @ 7:51pm
YamaKami Jul 13, 2017 @ 1:04am 
Games broken as ♥♥♥♥ period.
KieSeyHow Jul 13, 2017 @ 8:34am 
Originally posted by YamaKami:
Games broken as ♥♥♥♥ period.

Honestly, I had thought the same, but I work in IT, so I know that there is often a way to fix anything if you put in the time and effort.

I really love this game, and I could only play it on an old Vista 32b workstation, with a old video card, but it ran there, so there was NO real reason other than configuration that it cannot run on newer systems also. And I tried like 20 different tricks, until I combined them. The added bonus is this also fixed a few other old crashing games as well!
YamaKami Jul 13, 2017 @ 9:11am 
Originally posted by kieseyhow:
Originally posted by YamaKami:
Games broken as ♥♥♥♥ period.

Honestly, I had thought the same, but I work in IT, so I know that there is often a way to fix anything if you put in the time and effort.

I really love this game, and I could only play it on an old Vista 32b workstation, with a old video card, but it ran there, so there was NO real reason other than configuration that it cannot run on newer systems also. And I tried like 20 different tricks, until I combined them. The added bonus is this also fixed a few other old crashing games as well!

I spend many many hours a week making games run for people and interpreting dxdiags and information most do not understand. This game will not run even after the full gamut of things I tired, including what you are suggesting. So I no point can you say anything to the contrary I will agree with.

Games 200% (out of 100) broken, and SHOULD NOT be for sale as such. Literally the only 2 games in my library that cannot be played, are this and the sequel.
KieSeyHow Jul 17, 2017 @ 9:47pm 


Originally posted by YamaKami:

I spend many many hours a week making games run for people and interpreting dxdiags and information most do not understand. This game will not run even after the full gamut of things I tired, including what you are suggesting. So I no point can you say anything to the contrary I will agree with.

Games 200% (out of 100) broken, and SHOULD NOT be for sale as such. Literally the only 2 games in my library that cannot be played, are this and the sequel.

Since I don't know anything about your system, or possible conflicting software that is running, I cannot offer you a solution or a reason. I can help you, but I do not reccomend posting specific details about your computer on a public forum. Add me and message me if you wish.
Last edited by KieSeyHow; Jul 17, 2017 @ 9:48pm
YamaKami Jul 18, 2017 @ 7:46am 
Originally posted by kieseyhow:
Originally posted by YamaKami:

I spend many many hours a week making games run for people and interpreting dxdiags and information most do not understand. This game will not run even after the full gamut of things I tired, including what you are suggesting. So I no point can you say anything to the contrary I will agree with.

Games 200% (out of 100) broken, and SHOULD NOT be for sale as such. Literally the only 2 games in my library that cannot be played, are this and the sequel.

Since I don't know anything about your system, or possible conflicting software that is running, I cannot offer you a solution or a reason. I can help you, but I do not reccomend posting specific details about your computer on a public forum. Add me and message me if you wish.
You don;t seem to get it, you cannot help.I'm not some guy that got a PC in a dept store that has no idea what he is doing. The game is fundamentally ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ broken. Done this route, and you are WAY late to the party. Not looking for help, looking to make anyone who wants to buy this title on PC aware this is broken garbage, aka a scam. A scam that should NOT be sold on this platform or any other!


PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

BROKEN GAME AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!!
KieSeyHow Jul 20, 2017 @ 7:26pm 
*****EDIT UPDATE****

Okay, after MUCH testing, and great amounts of research, I have collated the useful info for this annoying crash.

If you have more than 8 "logical" cores in total (this means physical cores PLUS Hyper-threading cores AND you are using a 64b version of Windows (7, 8, 8.1, or 10), then you have two options. Either run the Prototype game directly with a custom shortcut, OR, run Steam itself with the custom shortcut. I will explain the Steam version, and you should be able ot figure out the other one easily.

BONUS: this tweak actually fixed startup crashes on a few other old classic games also! older games don't run any faster on more than the first 8 logical cores anyhow. Four cores with hyperthreading gives you 8 logical cores. By limiting the main Steam Launcher itself with a custom shortcut, all other Steam assets inherit the same settings which greatly inproves compantibility with older games. So, let's start...

--> Start by making a NEW shortcut on the desktop, and browsing to Steam with the "create shortcut" widget. right-click -> New -> Shortcut -> then click "browse" and go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe , then select the main "Steam.exe" program (ignore the others) and click "OK".

--> Now, right-click that NEW shortcut and select "Properties" from the mouse context menu.
--> In the box marked "Target" replace
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe"
with the following that matches your OS:
Win7 and 8.1: C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /C start /affinity 0xff C:\PROGRA~2\STEAM\STEAM.EXE
Win10: cmd /C start "steam" /affinity 0xff "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe"


--> Now, in the box marked "Start In" replace
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\
with:
Win7 and 8.1: C:\PROGRA~2\STEAM\
Win10: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam"
--> Now click on []
--> On Win7 and 8,1 you will see the steam icon change to a simple black box. On Win10 the Steam icon stays the same. Your custom Steam shortcut is now actually pointing to the Windows Command Processor (CMD.exe) instead of Steam itself (remember you edited it).

The REASON you are use SHORT DOS names for Win7 and 8.1 is because of how the CMD processor syntax requires no spaces in file or folder names. Windows 10 removed that restriction, and needs a slightly different syntax to work correctly. Remember the differences in case you need that in the future for something else.

You can do this for each annoying game, but I found it much easier to just make a second custom shortcut for SteamOldGames instead. ;)

--> Launch Steam with your custom shortcut, then start the Prototype game from inside the Steam library.

--> When you get into the game, FIRST go to the sound settings and change the "latency" to "32ms", click "SAVE" then "BACK" then exit the game.

--> Now, open your audio properties for your sound card. Change the advanced audio properties, on your "default" "playback device", to 44khz instead of 48, 96, or whatever it says. This addresses the stuttering sounds and crashing that may happen in MANY old games because of an incompatibility between how sounds are buffered in newer 64bit systems, compared to older 32bit systems the devs used years ago. It's basically a compatibility tweak. You are not capable of noticing anyhow, unless you have alien hearing. (perfect human hearing is only about 12bit raw)

Use this custom Steam shortcut to play older classic games to greatly reduce crashing. It seemed to fix several games that always crashed on start-up or after playing a few minutes.

If you want to play your latest modern games, just exit your custom Steam and launch it the normal way. You probably wont need to as all my games seem to run perfectly fine limited to 8 logical cores instead of the 24 cores my system has. I could not tell the difference at all.

Prototype ran insanely fast, like 200FPS after this. Now, I am going to reinstall some other old games I had given up on and try those also!

IM me on Skype or Hangouts, and if worst comes to worst, I might be able to help you using Teamviewer if you are completely confused and I have time.

Special thanks to Warmaniac_209 with his help in testing and research on Windows 10 systems!
Last edited by KieSeyHow; Jul 20, 2017 @ 7:50pm
YamaKami Jul 21, 2017 @ 2:15am 
^Yea except that does not work, and this game reamains broken as ♥♥♥♥. Regardless of that, if this was a fix, then it STILL should not be sold as is. While it also should STILL be removed from the store.

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

BROKEN GAME AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!!
Last edited by YamaKami; Jul 21, 2017 @ 2:16am
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